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I think Dunlops enjoyed a lot of goodwill from organisers, rulemakers and competitors because:
- they were the period supplier, - because they were able to supply R5s, Ls and Ms, - from the original moulds made to original specifications (!) - and because it was so simple to put Dunlops as spec tire into the rules without a second thought the reasons for this goodwill have vanished they might still use the original moulds but not with the skills and quality assurance processes necessary to come up with an acceptable product as i have said before give niche specialists such as Avon or Blockleys a chance to show that they can do better i am tired of going round, begging, borrowing recycling Dunlop tires and besing fobbed off with excuses that sound increasingly lame R.E. |
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We all have Dunlops sat in our garages that we are loathe to throw away. That would be extremely useful Simes.
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I was just supporting this weekend having raced a week or so ago. It was truly foul! You made a super start, I noticed.
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and then went straight on at Copse trying to make my escape.
No match for Tom. He was on another planet all weekend. Lost the engine on Sunday, so not the best of weekends for car 43. Hopefully its not too bad as it was brand new on the Saturday! |
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And there's good old me thinking this thread was about the major difficulty of Dunlops not having a supply of decent historic racing tyres rather than a supplement of OK magazine.
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THe Dutch are allowing certain cars to run on Avons due to a lack of supply.
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Avons over Dunlops is a big difference.Not many GT40s/Cobras or E Types run Dunlops and thats not because of availability problems.
Why not just ditch the histos and just use Avons it wouldn't be to difficult for organizers to add them into thier regs. |
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Except Avon do not produce every size as Dunlop do, the Dunlops v Avon on a GT 40 in the dry is (just) a Dunlop win, in the wet the Avons are so much faster its a no brainer to run them in races where mixed weather is likely such as The Marathon and the Six Hours. The Dunlops are so much more enjoyable to race on, the car is fluid and elegant on Dunlops as opposed to the stick then give of the Avons, finally the Avons are far heavier - we have broken a fair number of suspension bits on Avons that have previously been bullet proof on Dunlops.
So, yes I'm a Dunlop fan but actually as they work through the relocation and supply issues I'm sure they will get it all back together. |
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I have been assured by Stuart at Dunlop that everything (within the manufacturing process - machinery, raw materials, etc.) is the same except the location. My only experience with them so far was running a pair on the front of the Mini for 45 minutes after possibly not enough scrubbing in time (15 minutes) on the rear. They were destroyed but one could possibly point out that they had had an unfortunate short and brutal encounter with life.......two practice sessions on the rear followed by 20 minute sprint races on the front, would've been a far easier life.
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The crossply tryre is definitely the way to stay for historics, and a progressive and, to a point forgiving, tyre must be safer for a vast majority of weekend warriors. Asides the grin factor and spectacle.
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Dunlops look better and personally I enjoy their characteristics, also
I am happy to defer to those with greater knowledge than I when it comes to ultimate performance.. On a recent visit to Daytona it was noticeable that an awful lot of the "Vintage race cars" (1961 to 67 I think) were using Hoosier or Goodyear Blue Streak "Bias ply tires". They looked "Right" and seemed to perform well. It would appear that there are other tyres are being made but I am unsure of their availability. |
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So that solves post war situation.
What about the Pre War cars as Blockleys are not the answer. |
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Lesser grip tyres, as Simon mentioned suit the charecteristics of the cars too, When I first got involved I remember seeing lots of saloons with cracked panels and screen pillars etc as they were running on yokohomas with far more grip than the cars could handle.
I still dont understand why HSCC/HRS run on them, Its just wrong, and they don't fit under the arches of most cars . . .which is another story! |
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