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Only takes 1 person to shut something like this down.....Heck it only takes one complaint from a resident to get live music canned from pubs.
Sometimes you don't even need a person, a frog got a motor race cancelled in Australia once. the outnumbering for the event compared to against the event is irrelevant when it comes to getting an event canned or not. Imagine the increase in employment if the money was put into a permanent circuit for the area, instead of being a "Homebush lite"... |
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Ok imagining, Less than you think. Clipsal provides 400 Full time equivlent positions. permamnent circuits do not. Its all because of the size of the crowd, and interstate attendee, and set up costs. something permanent circuits dont achieve |
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How many full time equivalent jobs are there for the Homebush street race now? |
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Homebush has heaps of FTE jobs, i just checked Seek But these jobs dont last for ever, thats fine, but that is the hospitality industry, full of casuals surviving event to event, Sorry if you dont understand that |
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A permanent track would allow opportunities for employment in some capacity 365 days a year through circuit use. That won't happen at the Homebush Lite event. |
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Talk of building a new permanent circuit by comparison to a street event is a ridiculous fantasy and an apples to oranges comparison.
Just like bringing up 15 year old events, logical fallacies abound. Hybrid events like Townsville and Adelaide create lasting infrastructure and jobs without creating a green field facility. |
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What did motor racing get out of Homebush? What will motor racing get out of the replacement Homebush Lite event at Newcastle? |
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Does a tourism event need to do anything for motor racing?
Emotive carry on like this shows your agenda. |
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The Australia motor sport fraternity was fortunate that when the appetite for street and airfield tracks dried up in the early sixties there existed a strong interest from car clubs and the occasional entrepreneur to build permanent facilities. Will this be the case in the future? |
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From a tourism perspective, of course not. Newcastle is a great place, they've done well to nail a Supercars event to their town.
But considering we are on a motor racing forum, populated by people interested in motor racing, and the Newcastle event will be a motor racing event, logically wouldn't we hope it does something for motor racing? No agenda, just saying how I see it. Newcastle is just a lite version of the event Supercars really wanted. |
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All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
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how can CAMS licence a track before it is built? The nature of street circuits.
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Now that is getting interesting.
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A Formula E race would have to be in addition to the Newcastle 500, rather than as part of the Newcastle 500 (as the article mentions as one of the supposed options)
Abit of a cheap shot, given that even bibles like Autosport and Motorsport have made the same spelling mistake for decades... |
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If the event goes OK maybe that cost could be considered but it feels like a bit of a thought bubble by the council which might wither once they know what the dollars look like. |
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Formula E has made it clear in the past that they don't want to race alongside or be a part of race meetings that feature categories that, for want of a better term, burn fuel.
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You'd think you wouldn't get Formula E without the costs being the thick end of $1m.
Question is really whether the international exposure is worth it to Newcastle, and whether there is budget for that sort of thing. I applaud them thinking of something outside of domestic to put the event on the map. Gee I hope they don't race anywhere that generates electricity with coal... Same as hippie plug-in hybrid drivers... |
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It used to cost the Gold Coast event over $20m US for those things for Champ Car, IRL wanted more again to come back. On top of that is the cost to build the track, staff it, market the event etc. Unless the FIA is subsidising Formula E (which it may be doing) then it is likely to be pretty expensive to bring it to Newcastle - whether or not that stacks up remains to be seen. |
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2 May 2017, 10:13 (Ref:3730524) | #349 | ||
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Interesting with Newcastle investigating the Formula E angle - I wonder if this is to chase the international market to satisfy NSW gov investment.
Hang on weren't we told there would be no disruption and it was just East End nimby's whinging? |
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Maybe I should have said "alleged" disruption but in reality there is always some disruption, managed well people can still get on with what they want to do but if it drags out, patience may be limited.
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