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11 Sep 2017, 14:12 (Ref:3766064) | #481 | |
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Palmer to Williams? Why? He was the worst driver in 2017.
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Palmer to Williams......well it could only be to satisfy sponsors age, because he aint got any speed.....on the plus side it would be someone for Stroll to easily beat......are Williams really that stupid, I dont think so......
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Palmer is less likely to be treated as a number 2 like he has been at Renault. And he's not the worst driver on the grid, he's certainly better than Ericsson
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If Williams are going to chose a proven non-performer in Palmer - they may as well take the gamble on a once-proven performer but currently risky Kubica.
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Kubica would beat Palmer any day of the week!
I really hope Kubica gets a seat next year. Either at Sauber or Williams. But the story doesn't look like it's going to have the ending that many are hoping for. Such a sad ending to a story that could have made the 2018 season that much more interesting. On the current engine situation, it must be said.. kudos to Renault for agreeing to supply McLaren (apparently). Renault could well get beaten by Red Bull and McLaren next year, but still chose to supply engines to McLaren (apparently) knowing this. Bravo Renault. Bravo. |
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This Article suggests that in the musical chairs game on right now for engines, sponsorship & drivers, that Mr Sainz may be on loan for season 2018, and may be available for recall to Red Bull proper for 2019 should a seat open up.
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Throw in the seeming reluctance to replace established drivers (Massa, Alonso, Raikkenon) with unproven talent (lack of testing opportunity?) and the dilemma for team bosses is clear. |
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PeeBee quit while your ahead, I am not a European but I can see that Red Bull don't want to boot Carlos, you hate for him and his father make viablilty questionable, Horner and Helmet have said they don't want to see him go anywhere next year. Honda have said that they are with McLaren under a contract, its all media hype, hate to blow your bubble
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No, but when Honda looked at joining in 15 FIA raised the question of should we have a base package, only Ferrari and Mercedes Vetoed it, when realistically it wouldn't have affected them, even with a base for Honda
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As far as has been rumored (by Autosport, Motorsport, ...) it's looking increasingly likely: * Torro Rosso - Honda * McLaren - Renault * Renault: Sainz (with an option for Red Bull to get him back if desired) If it is rumored by at least some respectable media, I don't think anyone is spreading nonsense - except maybe that media's source? The only thing that I'd call inaccurate is that Red Bull seems to be glad to get rid of Sainz. That seems not true, if they included the option to get him back. I'd word it as: Red Bull doesn't want to stand in the way of Sainz if he can find a better seat rather than a Torro Rosso-Honda. |
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Thing is though, if F1 did allow the base package engine for Honda back in 2015, we may see a different story, only the VETO happened. Shame really actually, teams need a say, but the big teams in motorsport worldwide are at the point that they basically run the show, and if the managing group of a given form of motorsport wants to help the small teams, the big teams have an outcry and threaten to pull the pin. |
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The other thing I don't get with F1 teams, is why they constantly blame the manufacturer of engine for things that aren't the engine providers fault. Perfect example is Red Bull, they complain that Renault aren't good, yet Dan has had 7 podiums I think this year, and only 3 DNF's, in contrast, Max has had 6 DNF's and 1 podium, so it isn't an issue with Renault is it is being claimed as such, otherwise both would be out. I think in Red Bull's case, Max is overdriving, and therefore hurting his car, Red Bull have pride, as all teams should and aren't really wanting to take the blame, therefore Renault cops it. I am not a supporter of any other the engine providers, only really like the Mercedes AMG models, but teams need to take responsibility and do R&D as well, after all, the only factory teams are Renault, Ferrari, Mercedes and McLaren, anyone under them, if those four are performing is a minor priority
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There is a base specification in place, all the PU manufacturers have built to that. The issue is that some manufactures have been able to optimise their designs within those specifications better in terms of overall power output, drive ability. There are still issues for all of them with the parts failing within their designed life as required not by the spec but by the regulations.
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