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Old 14 Jun 2009, 23:18 (Ref:2483389)   #1
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Quick thanks to all concerned for a fantastic race meeting at Oulton on Saturday. Well done to the orange boys and girls as usual, you must have all been baking! Great to meet all the 10 tenthers, apologies to any I missed and finally a huge smile to the Everett/Makein BMW1502 for one of the best races I have ever enjoyed. Great driving Ian.

PS did anyone get any pics of the swinging 60's race?
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Old 15 Jun 2009, 10:39 (Ref:2483628)   #2
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Quick thanks to all concerned for a fantastic race meeting at Oulton on Saturday. Well done to the orange boys and girls as usual, you must have all been baking! Great to meet all the 10 tenthers, apologies to any I missed and finally a huge smile to the Everett/Makein BMW1502 for one of the best races I have ever enjoyed. Great driving Ian.

PS did anyone get any pics of the swinging 60's race?
Good to see you again. I really enjoyed my Tin Tops battle with the Green 205 (and first ever class win, thanks to those that were generous enough to retire!). Pity about the gear selection problems that meant I came last in the Sports Vs saloon race, though! I kept missing gears & was 4 secs a lap slower than in the Tin Tops race. I reckon I should have been in the middle of the Jags otherwise. Oh well, a great day, & photos of the Tin Tops race would also be appreciated!
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Old 15 Jun 2009, 22:38 (Ref:2484080)   #3
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Just like to add my thanks to the CSCC team and the guys in Orange, terrific day and my first podium despite messing up the start.
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Old 15 Jun 2009, 23:53 (Ref:2484118)   #4
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Great meeting, CSCC organisation as good as ever and a really friendly race meet. Good to meet up with old friends and make some new ones. Once again the Swinging '60's series was oversubscribed so two races were arranged. JW and I had a great race and were hoping for a win but were not disgraced to be beaten into second place by Calum Lockie.

Thanks to the folks in orange. I see from the Marshall's forum that there are comments that 40 min. races are not favoured. I guess that from a spectating viewpoint a 40 min pit-stop race may not have the immediate appeal of a 15 min sprint but from a driver's perspective and a team viewpoint, I rate the 2 driver 40 min format way above a sprint any day. I wonder what other's views on this are?
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Old 16 Jun 2009, 01:08 (Ref:2484150)   #5
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there's some pics here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3841411...7619641246937/

not the best day for us Spridgets; in practice Andy McGee's flywheel came loose and tried to exit the bellhousing, luckily it stayed inside. Tim Cairns' frogeye's crank pulley broke up, the replacement threw the belt on lap 1 of the race so overheated. I started 9th and found myself a lonely 7th after the Marcos bogged down on the line and the frog stopped. A handy pitstop when the SC came out elevated me to 4th for a while but when he turned the lights off to go in I had a missfire develop and after another lap it died completely. Duff rotor arm, grrrr. Still, it was a very good test day for me, just hope I've found all the gremlins before Spa in 3 weeks.
And yes the 40-minute 1 or 2 driver format works for me, in fact I prefer 1 hour or longer races.
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Old 16 Jun 2009, 08:04 (Ref:2484247)   #6
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Andy, I found some pics here:
http://www.mattsayle.co.uk/gallery/2...ark%2013.6.09/

I think he posts here from time to time. It was also my 1st bit of glasswear, 2nd in class and 9th o/a. Not bad for a standard 1300. It helped that others failed but hey...!
I read the marshall's posts (!) too and was a bit surprised. The races I saw had dicing all the way through, maybe not for the lead but good non the less. I run with CSCC precisely because of the longer race format and like you MGDavid would like a crack at some 1 hour or more events.
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Like both Daves and Paul I also race with the CSCC for the longer format and the friendly atmosphere and I think their success in attracting entries this year shows that they have it about right. Due to the car jumping out of gear on the line (driver error) I had to fight my way back up the grid so I certainly had a busy race and I know from watching some of the others that there were plenty of scraps down the field so I would have hoped that the spectators were not to disappointed. I'm looking forward to the one hour race at Spa both for the longer format and the chance to pop my Spa cherry. See you there if you're going.
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Old 16 Jun 2009, 09:22 (Ref:2484287)   #8
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Thanks for the photo link. Good photos although I was hoping that someone might have a photo of my demon overtaking move of the 205!!!!! I enjoyed my red wine from my new cut glass trophy on saturday night! Probably a one off, I won't expect the set!!

I really like the 40 minute format, whether I share the car or not. It makes it worthwhile to travel some distance & the pit stops add another dimension. I understand the marshals point that things can be difficult to follow & could be a bit tedious but we are the only club racing in this format at this level so I think they appreciate that its sort of a one off at each circuit we visit. Oulton is a bid odd for the CSCC, though, as we don't normally have 4 x 40 min racess in one day.

One thing, though. I am surprissed that more people don't take advantage of the Sports Vs Salon car allcomers race to get another practice and race in for just 95. I didn't do very well on saturday because I couldn't select gears properly but I have had some good David & Goliath battles in my little Uno with some of the big Jags. Very entertaining from where I was sitting!
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Old 16 Jun 2009, 09:33 (Ref:2484292)   #9
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I think the length of the circut at Oulton spread the races out more than usall. The races at Mallory, Brands & Snetterton this year have been cracking to watch, has anyone made the club aware that you would like longer races?
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has anyone made the club aware that you would like longer races?
It has been discussed, I think, but its a trade off between length of races, the additional entry fee that would have to be charged per entrant, the ability to accomodate guest races (the club gets loads of requests to join the bill) and competitors fuel tank capacities (having to have any sort of refueeling would be a whole different problem and cost).

The forthcoming Spa races are one hour & personally I'd like to investigate one other one hour race each year at somewhere like Anglesey.
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Old 16 Jun 2009, 10:14 (Ref:2484333)   #11
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Just adding our endorsement of the racing at Oulton. Great atmosphere, great organisation and so good to do the International. Sorry the guys and gals in orange weren't so impressed, but a huge thank-you to them anyway. Thanks CSCC.
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Fabulous car Celia. Got a great look at it trying to get between you and the Mk1 Jag at Lodge at the restart!
Andy perhaps it should thrown out there again as there seems to be some interest in the odd one hour event closer to home. Any cars that can do Spa should manage on fuel. Not sure if the Tin Top folk would be mad about it but the Histo people I think would be. Might even be a way of getting people to travel to Anglesey where entries are a bit smaller.
I'd love to do the extra race but ferries rule my schedule so I always have to miss them.
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Thanks for the photo link. Good photos although I was hoping that someone might have a photo of my demon overtaking move of the 205!!!!! I enjoyed my red wine from my new cut glass trophy on saturday night! Probably a one off, I won't expect the set!!
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I really like the 40 minute format, whether I share the car or not. ........................................... but we are the only club racing in this format at this level so I think they appreciate that its sort of a one off at each circuit we visit.
Odd then that I was in a 45mins two driver event at Castle Combe on Saturday. I'll make certain Masters know that they are of a lesser level than the CSCC. I'll also tell the HSCC that their longer races are of lesser stature shall I?

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One thing, though. I am surprised that more people don't take advantage of the Sports Vs Salon car allcomers race to get another practice and race in for just 95.
The problem is that if you have a bad race in the main event you lose out, plus it puts additional wear on the car meaning earlier/more rebuilds etc.
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Old 16 Jun 2009, 17:10 (Ref:2484597)   #14
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I think my key phrase is "at this level". I don't think that CSCC is really competeing with Masters events at all. Generally we don't attract cars that are anywhere near as expensive as Masters! I think you have interpreted my comments the wrong way round, although I admit that I had forgotten that HSCC do some longer races, but surely not as a matter of course? All of the CSCC series run to the 40 min pitstop format and that's what I meant. I don't want to upset anyone in the other series or get into a debate over which is the "highest" level etc. CSCC is about VFM not about status.
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They all offer VFM otherwise why would anyone enter? The CSCC is a great concept and its regs are more relaxed than the others, but to suggest any of them are at any particular "level" is missing the point.

To be frank, there are many organisations putting on longer races albeit only for certain classes. In the UK we have those already mentioned, in Europe there's the ADAC and the RMU to name but two.
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