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Old 10 Jun 2011, 22:24 (Ref:2895385)   #46
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What a joke.
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Old 10 Jun 2011, 23:11 (Ref:2895398)   #47
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My concern is the wieght and power vs. Safety cell of thedriver.how long would devlopment of this go on before that engine can make crahorsepower and speeds
I doubt safety will keep up as fast. That the problem for me. The small engine meansnothing as power gains can be massive. I expect tire failure before any handling issue.
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Old 11 Jun 2011, 01:06 (Ref:2895448)   #48
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A WRC engine and restrictor would give it around 325bhp, the aim is low drag and fuel efficiency.

As for the safety cell, it's a two seater, and renders show it's quite hefty, certainly larger than single seaters.

Some of the reaction to the DW is strange, spec racing and standardisation is so common place, anything out of the norm polarises views.

There's nowhere to hide for DW, it'll either work or not, if the latter they may adapt their design to a more traditional LMP form, yet still see some of the benefits.

Greater reg freedom in years gone by encouraged innovation, and some of the greatest developments the sport ever saw. P1 manufactuers are already at the cutting edge of design and powertrains, to qualify for the 56th grid slot a car is going to have to buck many conventions, if not why even bother.
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Old 11 Jun 2011, 01:39 (Ref:2895452)   #49
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Significant developments in motorsport have often been greeted with huge sceptism, mid-engine location, wings, turbocharging, carbon chassis, diesels, hybrids..............

Rather than getting hung up on the Delta Wings strange shape, the real story is the concept behind it, less weight, less power, same performance, better economy.

Imagine an R18 weighing 200-300kg less, with a 300-400bhp IC engine, supplemented by a 200bhp hybrid system, and downforce generated soley by sophisticated ground effects.
I agree, I very much like the less weight, less power. I'm thinking Panhard CD and Index of Performance era. But form follows function, ditch the bizarre layout. DW has come to a arbitrary solution. Let's start with power reduction and less weight and see what shakes out: it will have 4 wheels in a conventional format.
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Old 11 Jun 2011, 11:13 (Ref:2895530)   #50
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Wow. I've never seen such a bunch of whiners in my life.
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Old 11 Jun 2011, 12:07 (Ref:2895555)   #51
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this looks like a great little project, the ACO should be commended, but I'm sure in true ten-tenths style the ACO, deltawing, highcroft, Panoz & AAR will be slammed left right and centre for trying something new.......ffs give me a break......anyway, who has the engine supply deal?.......it sounds like a modern day WRC engine with 1.6L and 300bhp
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Old 11 Jun 2011, 12:13 (Ref:2895557)   #52
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Hideous looking car. Not a fan at all.
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Old 11 Jun 2011, 12:41 (Ref:2895565)   #53
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I think a lot of people here have lost sight of what the ethos of the Le Mans 24 Hours is.

Le Mans was set up to allow manufacturers to advance and develop technology for road cars. It was designed to allow radical and innovative ideas to be put to an extreme test to see of they work.

Le Mans has never lost sight of this objective.

Now look at the Indy 500. That was set up with the same ethos as Le Mans. Now look at it...spec chassis with interchangable bodywork.

If you want stagnant spec racing bereft of innovation, Le Mans isn't the place for you.
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Old 11 Jun 2011, 12:50 (Ref:2895568)   #54
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I very much agree with you johntt, a lot of us have lost sight of that, but this design is barking up the wrong tree, IMHO.
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Old 11 Jun 2011, 13:42 (Ref:2895589)   #55
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I very much support the ethos behind the project (light weight, lower power) but I have to say it is pretty ugly....worse than the Aston P1 certainly
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Old 11 Jun 2011, 16:02 (Ref:2895716)   #56
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I think a lot of people here have lost sight of what the ethos of the Le Mans 24 Hours is.

Le Mans was set up to allow manufacturers to advance and develop technology for road cars. It was designed to allow radical and innovative ideas to be put to an extreme test to see of they work.
My sentiments exactly. This is one car doing something different - not a mandate for the entire field to look goofy. I like sportscar racing because of variety, so this just adds to that for me.
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Old 11 Jun 2011, 16:48 (Ref:2895758)   #57
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I very much agree with you johntt, a lot of us have lost sight of that, but this design is barking up the wrong tree, IMHO.
So far it's just a render, the final car may look more conventional but still apply many of the same ideas.
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Old 11 Jun 2011, 19:30 (Ref:2895866)   #58
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Car will test in December with twenty two tests planned, according to the designer on Eurosport.
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Old 11 Jun 2011, 19:41 (Ref:2895878)   #59
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This little car generates so much anger!

I was fortunate to be a fan starting in the late 60's and got to see lots of funky ideas tried out, most of which didn't work. I loved the variety. Auto racing has become quite stagnant in the last few years and I've dropped out as a fan. LeMans will be 90% of my racing viewing this year and I haven't gone to a race in over two years (normally went to three a year). If racing got back to allowing out-of-the-box ideas like this rather than over-specifying everything, I would become a regular fan again.

Kudos to ACO for having a bit of vision, and the DW team for not giving up despite the torrent of negative reaction from traditionalist racing fans.
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This thing should be tipped up on its end and launched towards the moon!

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