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Old 8 Nov 2005, 05:02 (Ref:1454918)   #1
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Lavaggi LS1 (merged threads)

I supposed it was posted hundred times before, but as I missed the news, I opened a small thread about the new LS1 built by Giovanni Lavaggi.

The car passed the crash test successfuly, and will enter LMS and other series, even LM if there's an invitation.

The the news is smoked for a long time, I'll delete the thread...
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 06:07 (Ref:1454931)   #2
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It looks like a reworked Dallara to me ..... Hope its not !!! It doesnt even look like a Hybrid to me ?
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 06:33 (Ref:1454935)   #3
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OK. Whatever? What is this, everybody building there own LMP cars now? They should have some kind of homoligation.

Anyways, why does every Italian web-site have to have cheesey techno music in the back ground?

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Old 8 Nov 2005, 07:52 (Ref:1454954)   #4
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Well , it beats gangster rap mate !!!
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 12:01 (Ref:1455120)   #5
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Did he draw it on a bar napkin????

If the thing has been crash tested, wouldn't there be more accurate renderings of it than this???
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 12:36 (Ref:1455154)   #6
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Theres a picture of it in the wind tunnel, albeit not very clear.
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 13:25 (Ref:1455191)   #7
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OK. Whatever? What is this, everybody building there own LMP cars now? They should have some kind of homoligation.

Anyways, why does every Italian web-site have to have cheesey techno music in the back ground?

My name is Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaarco. I am Maaaaaaaaaaaaaarco from Spaaaaaaaaarco!

Jeez.

That has to rank as one of the most appallingly designed websites I have ever visited........
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 14:29 (Ref:1455239)   #8
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That artist's sketch is missing the secondary rollover structure for the passenger, the raised front splitter, the raised sides...
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 14:35 (Ref:1455243)   #9
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That artist's sketch is missing the secondary rollover structure for the passenger, the raised front splitter, the raised sides...
.........so let's not beat around the bush, it is in fact nothing like a new regs LMP1.........!!
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 14:40 (Ref:1455246)   #10
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That artist's sketch is missing the secondary rollover structure for the passenger, the raised front splitter, the raised sides...

anything even remotely resembling the "2nd Seat Space" in shape or size.....

This looks like an SCCA CSR chassis rendering....

Yet this thing has allegedly been crash tested????

BTW...where is the site that you have been referring to....
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 14:48 (Ref:1455248)   #11
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.........so let's not beat around the bush, it is in fact nothing like a new regs LMP1.........!!
Thats why I have a suspicious feeling it is a modified Dallara LMP1 . The nose and rear wing remind me of that , as well as the lower ride height .
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 15:16 (Ref:1455265)   #12
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Assuming that is the car, you can make out the long rear endplates and raised front section, which are not on the sketch.

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Old 8 Nov 2005, 15:16 (Ref:1455266)   #13
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Disagree, seems they released a rendering of the car as per the LMP900 regulations, i.e. it was all that they had to release. They haven't gotten around to getting someone to sketch the new car and since they already have it in the wind tunnel there is really no reason; they'll be able to release images of the 'tunnel model at some point (one would assume, so why bother with a new rendering?).
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 15:22 (Ref:1455270)   #14
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Ha, just checked my inbox and I have a reply from the Director of Sport for the project. He's sent me an image of the windtunnel model (heavily obscured by Lavaggis standing in front of it!) but you can see clearly it is based on current regulations. Will post these up later tonight when I get home from work.
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 15:24 (Ref:1455272)   #15
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boo! not replied to mine!
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 15:26 (Ref:1455274)   #16
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Ya...but doesn't matter, some one else will most certainly post the images before the end of the day (DSC?). So much for the exclusive...
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 15:30 (Ref:1455278)   #17
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Ha, just checked my inbox and I have a reply from the Director of Sport for the project. He's sent me an image of the windtunnel model (heavily obscured by Lavaggis standing in front of it!) but you can see clearly it is based on current regulations. Will post these up later tonight when I get home from work.

Thanks as always, Mike!!!!

Look forward to seeing the "Lavaggi-Obscured" tunnel model.....
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Old 8 Nov 2005, 15:44 (Ref:1455292)   #18
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windtunnel modell is printed in german "MSa" today. but only a small one, 40% or so
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Old 9 Nov 2005, 01:17 (Ref:1455879)   #19
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Well it took something like 12 hours, but here it is!

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Old 9 Nov 2005, 01:52 (Ref:1455896)   #20
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Great stuff MMike! Manufactured in Monaco? Jeepers, the real estate costs in this endevour put them up in Audi budget area, don't they?

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Old 9 Nov 2005, 01:58 (Ref:1455902)   #21
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Hey, Giovanni....

How about moving YOU (and your stupid little sign) out of the way?????


We want to see the model....
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Old 9 Nov 2005, 02:12 (Ref:1455908)   #22
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Hey, Giovanni....

How about moving YOU (and your stupid little sign) out of the way?????


We want to see the model....
Yeah, I got a chuckle out of that too. I mean, he might as well be sitting on it! We get it, you don't want everyone to see it just yet...well, all of it just yet. Clearly enthused though (rightfully).
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Leaning on the model seemed like it may have some effect on repeatability of lift and drag results........
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Old 9 Nov 2005, 18:45 (Ref:1456550)   #24
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Giovanni Lavaggi is back !?

Anybody else remember Giovanni Lavaggi ? (literal translation - unless any Italian member can prove me -wrong 'Johnny Carwash')
As far as I can remember Giovanni who 'raced' in F1 for Pacific, was a 'gentleman racer' (pay-driver to you and I) but now I read this from Autosport:

Former Grand Prix driver Giovanni Lavaggi has confirmed he will race his own sports car in the Le Mans 24 Hours and the LMES in 2006, subject to entry approval.
Lavaggi, who raced for the Pacific and Minardi teams in 1995 and 1996, has designed the LS1 prototype himself, and the machine will be powered by a six-litre Ford V8 prepared in America by PME.
According to Autosprint magazine, the chassis will have some rather original aerodynamic solutions developed in a wind tunnel in England and has already passed the FIA crash tests.

He designed it himself ? Can anybody tell me more about this man - I really thought he was just a rich guy racing cars, and here is is, a decade later at the cutting edge of sportscars. What next, Aguri Suzuki running a semi-works F1 team ?

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There's a thread on this in the obvious location here..........


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