Bit of tech info please (re brake and fuel lines) - Page 2

jminsh · 30 Aug 2009, 21:42 (Ref:2531508)

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Originally Posted by skentellytubby

While I'm on..........does anyone know of a nice seat that doesn't look modern. There was a silver lightweight E type at Oulton and it had one of those aluminium shells with a leather seat cover (Kirkey???) like the yanks use. Looked good but are they comfortable and are they legal?

Simon

Hi i drive the said E type you saw at oulton in the Spa 6 hours .

Perfectly legal, it is a kirky but modded to make access easier and dead comfy during a 2 hr stint.

skentellytubby · 31 Aug 2009, 00:30 (Ref:2531604)

Ah ok, was wondering if they were comfy. I really like the look of 'em.

I'll be popping over and purchasing one....

(apologies for buying the last copy of Speed Merchants last weekend!!)

skentellytubby · 2 Sep 2009, 16:30 (Ref:2533225)

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Originally Posted by jminsh

Hi i drive the said E type you saw at oulton in the Spa 6 hours .

Perfectly legal, it is a kirky but modded to make access easier and dead comfy during a 2 hr stint.

Out of interest, which Kirkey model is it that you use?

...nice conditions on Monday!!

terence · 2 Sep 2009, 17:22 (Ref:2533253)

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Originally Posted by jminsh

Hi i drive the said E type you saw at oulton in the Spa 6 hours .

Perfectly legal, it is a kirky but modded to make access easier and dead comfy during a 2 hr stint.

What,you cut the 'ear's' off?

skentellytubby · 3 Sep 2009, 19:48 (Ref:2534033)

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Originally Posted by terence bower

What,you cut the 'ear's' off?

That's what I was wondering! They come in various designs and there are some that dont look to obstructive but the standard 'intermediate' stock car looking ones look like they'd make entry/exit tricky. I have to say, they are snug and comfy though.

terence · 4 Sep 2009, 04:30 (Ref:2534189)

I used a Ginetta that had them fitted a while back,found the sides to be a little too high for me though,got out of the car with bruising to my rib's!

skentellytubby · 5 Sep 2009, 16:16 (Ref:2534961)

Not sure my Big Mac and Fries-sized arse will fit in a Kirkey to be fair!

Whatever I go for I'll want to change from the floor mounted seats that are in there at the moment for some side mounted ones.

Is it a requirement to have reinforcements welded in where the mounts attach to the chassis?

terence · 5 Sep 2009, 19:26 (Ref:2535039)

Not a requirement but with the B its not a bad idea.Dont forget that the floor is only 1.2mm thick and can flex.Better to mount onto four 3mm plates of 3in sq with some decent plate washers on the underside of the floor.

skentellytubby · 5 Sep 2009, 22:08 (Ref:2535089)

Many thanks again Terry, Ill do exactly that

Alex E · 6 Sep 2009, 17:44 (Ref:2535425)

Well here is a new one, a customer of mine has a Tilton floor mounted pedal box & the pipes from the resovoirs (in the engine bay..) attach to a white plastic adapter into the top of the master cylinders. A scrutineer has told him that is not permitted as it means there are `hot fluids` inside the cockpit ! So it must be boxed in ( just about impossible..) or be removed. The car has been scrutineered at least 40 times previously with this system in place, but looks like it will have to be changed now. Be warned.
Alex

Al Weyman · 6 Sep 2009, 21:22 (Ref:2535525)

Now that is ridiculous! So you are sitting in there in your car in your triple layer race overalls with underwear and a bit of fluid from the RESORVIOR drops on to your leg, so what whats the worse that can happen, a cleaning bill? Its in the resorvior so how on earth is that going to get hot enough to burn you, I mean correct me if I wrong please but I really cannot see heat from the calipers transfering that far I will check my cylinder next time I have a hard race?

Alex E · 7 Sep 2009, 06:37 (Ref:2535638)

I agree completely Al, but you know how it is. So between now & the last race of the season it looks like a new pedal box, or at least a lot of work trying to cover it up.
Quite strange how in about 40 trips to the scrutes nobody has mentioned it before, although most of them press the pedal & look at it !

Alex

terence · 7 Sep 2009, 07:09 (Ref:2535652)

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Originally Posted by Alex E

Well here is a new one, a customer of mine has a Tilton floor mounted pedal box & the pipes from the reservoirs (in the engine bay..) attach to a white plastic adapter into the top of the master cylinders. A scrutineer has told him that is not permitted as it means there are `hot fluids` inside the cockpit ! So it must be boxed in ( just about impossible..) or be removed. The car has been scrutineered at least 40 times previously with this system in place, but looks like it will have to be changed now. Be warned.
Alex

But is the scrutineer just referring to a lack of suitable sealing off to the engine bay? Could well be just a case of him looking at the set-up from a different angle.I know the Tilton can sometimes be a bit awkward to seal off sufficiently

terence · 7 Sep 2009, 14:26 (Ref:2535932)

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Originally Posted by skentellytubby

Many thanks again Terry, Ill do exactly that

Possibly this should have been a pm,however,do not make the mistake of using the Webber 48 DCOE,it is illegal as it was never used in period.

Alex E · 7 Sep 2009, 20:24 (Ref:2536176)

Apparently he was concerned about the non braided pipes from the resovoir being inside the car. And the plastic / nylon adapters that Tilton use where the pipe goes into the cylinder. There was no problem with the bulkhead sealing regarding these hoses.
Alex.

Al Weyman · 7 Sep 2009, 20:29 (Ref:2536178)

But it will still not be hot brake fluid so what does it matter if they split and leak.

terence · 7 Sep 2009, 20:33 (Ref:2536181)

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Originally Posted by Alex E

Apparently he was concerned about the non braided pipes from the resovoir being inside the car. And the plastic / nylon adapters that Tilton use where the pipe goes into the cylinder. There was no problem with the bulkhead sealing regarding these hoses.
Alex.

I didn't think Tilton supplied braided pipework in the kit! You would have thought that after all these years they would know what they were doing.

Alex E · 7 Sep 2009, 21:00 (Ref:2536204)

It is just normal rubber pipe. Make you wonder how many cars are racing in the UK with the same `problem` ??
Alex

terence · 8 Sep 2009, 03:57 (Ref:2536345)

Yes,exactly.

skentellytubby · 8 Sep 2009, 21:05 (Ref:2536746)

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Originally Posted by terence bower

Possibly this should have been a pm,however,do not make the mistake of using the Webber 48 DCOE,it is illegal as it was never used in period.

Umm, bit confused (easily done!)

Nope running on 45s.

Think I'll wait 'til after Snetterton before messing around with the seat.

skentellytubby · 8 Sep 2009, 22:26 (Ref:2536781)

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Originally Posted by skentellytubby

Nope running on 45s.

Or I bloody hope so, having read your post re swapping the float chamber covers.......!

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