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Old 10 Feb 2014, 11:28 (Ref:3366421)   #1
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Replicas - which series allows them?

Assuming that any do.

Are there any replicas of GT40s, D-types, Stratos etc. that are allowed to race with original cars?

I'm specifically interested in any technical regulations or amendments that allow replicas to compete.
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Old 10 Feb 2014, 11:59 (Ref:3366429)   #2
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Assuming that any do.

Are there any replicas of GT40s, D-types, Stratos etc. that are allowed to race with original cars?

I'm specifically interested in any technical regulations or amendments that allow replicas to compete.
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There are replicas, and then there are continuation replicas.

It all depends on the club organiser and their regulations as I have found out over too many years.
I run two replicas, a GT40 and a Porsche 917K, neither of which have any HTP or FIA papers but do follow a "historic" flavour as much as is financially possible, especially the Porsche.

Only events that I have regularly run in have been invitation or SR&GT and the Heritage(now defunct) series.
From this season onwards I have also been accepted under the invitation class into the Aston Martin "Intermarque"championship.
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Old 10 Feb 2014, 12:24 (Ref:3366434)   #3
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Thanks. In rallying some organisers allow non-period or non-homologated parts if originals are not available and the replacement confers no technical advantage (like a Ford Escort gearbox in a Sunbeam for e.g.).

The question is, how far do you take that? If Super-7 chassis' are not available, do you allow the use of an identical Caterham chassis as long as the technical spec is correct?

What adds to the confusion is that rally cars are road-registered and some organisations require period registration while other only require period specification (cars can be 'back-dated').
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Assuming that any do.

Are there any replicas of GT40s, D-types, Stratos etc. that are allowed to race with original cars?

I'm specifically interested in any technical regulations or amendments that allow replicas to compete.
In historic racing there are continuation cars, original cars rebuilt onto new chassis / monocoque, replicas, all racing alongside 'originals'. But (here we go again!) what constitutes original......

I believe that nowadays 'continuation' cars (Lola T70 for example) have to be declared as such. IMHO the problem is when cars are suggested to be original when they are not.......

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Errr, sorry no comment re "Historic Replicas", been done a million times before, but in Gregs case I'm surprised at the lack of interest in this type.Only place they seem to be welcome is when they help fill grid slots,such as BSS at Spa which is a shame because most have been built to a very high standard.
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Mike is correct, in true Orwellian fashion all replicas are equal but some are more equal than others... A GT40 or T70 made by the right people is a continuation not a replica...
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Old 11 Feb 2014, 12:18 (Ref:3366878)   #8
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Thanks for the comments.

I agree that there are proper replicas and then there are cars that are not up to scratch.

BUT...........

In rallying, the chances of finding original cars is maybe 5%; they are mostly period road cars recently built as vague facsimiles of competition cars of the period.

What I am after is any example of rule-makers addressing the issue of replicas in print; not the replicas we already use in rallying but more exotic cars like GTs etc. that originals were made in very small numbers. Has anyone set out in technical detail what is acceptable when a car is 'created' in modern times?

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What I am after is any example of rule-makers addressing the issue of replicas in print; not the replicas we already use in rallying but more exotic cars like GTs etc. that originals were made in very small numbers. Has anyone set out in technical detail what is acceptable when a car is 'created' in modern times?
Appendix K, 3.6 'Guidelines for replica cars and replica components' ?
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Appendix K, 3.6 'Guidelines for replica cars and replica components' ?
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