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racer69 · 30 Nov 2016, 07:44 (Ref:3692290)

Watching the "Inside Supercars" TV show last night, I have to admit it's gotten to the point i'm feeling abit sorry for James Phelps the last few weeks.

He might ask a few 'simple' questions, and probe for answers when he knows a driver can't answer, but some of the responses he got from James Courtney last night, and a few other drivers in recent weeks, boarded on downright rude and kind of embarrassing for a TV show.

He's written alot of rubbish in the papers over the years, but I feel alot of that is in he is likely not really much of a motor racing person and covers it because News Limited tell him too, he relies alot on what he is told (especially when it comes to some 'historical features') and toes the Supercar corporate line to keep them happy, but in the terms of the TV show he represents the 'casual viewer' and a way to make the show appeal to the non-hardcores and the general sports fans.

Lately on the show he hasn't really made many statements or shared too many of his opinions, he's just asked questions and received pretty blunt & dismissive replies...

Umai Naa · 30 Nov 2016, 08:09 (Ref:3692296)

What does he expect?

He has zero credibility in the paddock.

racer69 · 30 Nov 2016, 09:11 (Ref:3692306)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

What does he expect?

He has zero credibility in the paddock.

I get that, but i think the drivers responses to him on the TV have the drivers coming off looking worse than he does.

Axeman444 · 30 Nov 2016, 20:06 (Ref:3692481)

What do you expect when you **** in your own bed?

BlueMax · 30 Nov 2016, 22:58 (Ref:3692540)

It is still unprofessional from the drivers. You would not get answers like that from Brock.

D.R.T. · 30 Nov 2016, 23:05 (Ref:3692543)

I reckon that drivers feel that Mr Phelps performance have been a little unprofessional as well.

Phelps is clearly a V8SC plant and yes man who is well well out of his depth.

Umai Naa · 1 Dec 2016, 00:12 (Ref:3692558)

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Originally Posted by BlueMax

It is still unprofessional from the drivers. You would not get answers like that from Brock.

Well not to his face.

Did they have hack journalists like Phelps around back then?

peckstar · 1 Dec 2016, 00:23 (Ref:3692561)

disappointing. Other key sports in Australia would see the players being asked for a please explain

Weak management at the top

chavez · 1 Dec 2016, 02:23 (Ref:3692585)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Well not to his face.

Did they have hack journalists like Phelps around back then?

Yeah, Brock even had to put up with me interviewing him back in the day.

chavez · 14 Jan 2017, 05:58 (Ref:3702466)

No time certain finish for the Women's Big Bash game today.

Glad to see a sport that didn't sell off its' integrity and believed in the quality of their product that would leave TV executives with no choice but to run into the news should it be required.

Well done.

dsg · 14 Jan 2017, 12:27 (Ref:3702519)

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Originally Posted by chavez

No time certain finish for the Women's Big Bash game today.

Glad to see a sport that didn't sell off its' integrity and believed in the quality of their product that would leave TV executives with no choice but to run into the news should it be required.

Well done.

Umai Naa · 14 Jan 2017, 14:00 (Ref:3702530)

TV isn't the sole reason for time-certain finishes.

chavez · 14 Jan 2017, 21:44 (Ref:3702608)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

TV isn't the sole reason for time-certain finishes.

The other reasons?

chavez · 14 Jan 2017, 21:47 (Ref:3702610)

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Originally Posted by dsg

Just pointing out that time commercial TV can be flexible and accommodate sports that run over the scheduled time. We see it a lot in summer with both cricket and tennis.

one five five · 15 Jan 2017, 02:21 (Ref:3702663)

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Originally Posted by dsg

Someone making a post that might be critical towards Supercars is hardly trolling, anything but.

chavez has proven over the years to be anything but with his posts

This forum isn't a Supercars Appreciation Society, its a forum for motorsport enthusiasts to discuss their likes & dislikes about motor racing.

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

TV isn't the sole reason for time-certain finishes.

Was it not explained in years past that the main reason for time-certain finishes was more to do with International Satellite coverage and fitting into that time frame?

Mixer · 16 Jan 2017, 01:24 (Ref:3702824)

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Originally Posted by chavez

No time certain finish for the Women's Big Bash game today.

No time certain finish, but the captain(s) responsible for the delays will get a ban for the next game as punishment, as per Brendan McCullum from the Brisbane Heat...

chavez · 16 Jan 2017, 02:19 (Ref:3702829)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

No time certain finish, but the captain(s) responsible for the delays will get a ban for the next game as punishment, as per Brendan McCullum from the Brisbane Heat...

True, but in the Women's BBL is was due to the Superover. With scores tied after 20 overs the match went into overtime.

With time being critical at Supercar events I'd like to see at least all of the Support Races run to a time rather than by laps.

It would end the almost conflict start cutting short of the support races.

**GTRMagic** · 16 Jan 2017, 02:32 (Ref:3702834)

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Originally Posted by chavez

True, but in the Women's BBL is was due to the Superover. With scores tied after 20 overs the match went into overtime.

With time being critical at Supercar events I'd like to see at least all of the Support Races run to a time rather than by laps.

It would end the almost conflict start cutting short of the support races.

Agree about the time limiting, although one of the main reasons time seems to get away from the organisers is collecting dead cars off the circuit and/or repairing accident damage to safety barriers & the like before the next race begins. Don't quite know what the remedy is for that...

Alan52 · 16 Jan 2017, 03:57 (Ref:3702844)

The issue has been made worse by TV networks demanding the scheduled finish ,which allows for very minimal SC laps , is 10 minutes before the end of telecast times.In the past when races finished 20-30 minutes before end of telecast most of the audience turned off.It is conditions imposed by television that mean more time can't be built into schedule to allow for disruptions.

dsg · 19 Jan 2017, 05:13 (Ref:3703490)

As with most forms of racing, car racing has a format that fits a time critical finish.

A match between two teams does not fit that format because each side must be given equal status. Can't give one team 20 overs and the other 18.

I would have thought this would have been plainly obvious to everyone including Chavez.

chavez · 19 Jan 2017, 09:01 (Ref:3703524)

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Originally Posted by dsg

As with most forms of racing, car racing has a format that fits a time critical finish.

A match between two teams does not fit that format because each side must be given equal status. Can't give one team 20 overs and the other 18.

I would have thought this would have been plainly obvious to everyone including Chavez.

Of course when rain interrupts a cricket match both sides are not give equally status.

Cricket could quite easily introduce a time certain finish using a suitably modified version of the Duckworth-Lewis system.

Kudos for them not going down this path.

If anything cricket has pushed the boundaries of TV network commitment by introducing early starts and late finishes for test matches interrupted by rain.

Motor racing does lend itself to time certain finishes but it doesn't mean it is good for the integrity of the sport or the fan paying good money to sit trackside. They at least deserve to see a race run the full distance.

Matt · 19 Jan 2017, 15:25 (Ref:3703590)

The worst is when a race ends under a time certain solution when there's only a handful of scheduled laps remaining.

Mixer · 19 Jan 2017, 22:33 (Ref:3703656)

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Originally Posted by chavez

Cricket could quite easily introduce a time certain finish using a suitably modified version of the Duckworth-Lewis system.

Mind you as a cricket fan and a motorsport fan, I hate the inequality of the Duckworth-Lewis system worse than I hate a time-certain race finish...

chavez · 19 Jan 2017, 23:24 (Ref:3703660)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

Mind you as a cricket fan and a motorsport fan, I hate the inequality of the Duckworth-Lewis system worse than I hate a time-certain race finish...

I agree with that.

Alan52 · 20 Jan 2017, 09:21 (Ref:3703729)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

Mind you as a cricket fan and a motorsport fan, I hate the inequality of the Duckworth-Lewis system worse than I hate a time-certain race finish...

Off topic I know but as a cricket fan there is no inequality in Duckworth Lewis.There certainly was in every other formulation used before Duckworth Lewis.Can you point to 1 specific match in the history of 50 over cricket where Duckworth Lewis made it inequitable?

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