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Old 14 Mar 2013, 18:44 (Ref:3218464)   #1
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Prototype ............... (P) = DP, P2 & DW
Prototype Challenge (PC) = LMPC
GT Le Mans ........(GTLM) = GTE
GT Daytona .........(GTD) = GA-GT & GTc
GX.....*for now*......(GX) = GX

IMSA, is the sanctioning body for the new series



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Old 14 Mar 2013, 19:07 (Ref:3218479)   #2
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GX needs to grow significantly for them to warrant cluttering things up with a fifth class. If they continue with so few cars, just merge it into GTD somehow. Alternatively, talk to the ACO, and open up some more options in GTLM: hybrids, diesels, etc.

I don't especially dislike the new name, but given what it is, I would just as soon have it be called the USRRC (even if there is a token round in Canada and/or Mexico). Funny thing, I just checked, and the old USRRC visited BOTH Canada and Mexico in 1968.

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Old 14 Mar 2013, 19:17 (Ref:3218489)   #3
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GX needs to grow significantly for them to warrant cluttering things up with a fifth class. If they continue with so few cars, just merge it into GTD somehow. Alternatively, talk to the ACO, and open up some more options in GTLM: hybrids, diesels, etc.

I don't especially dislike the new name, but given what it is, I would just as soon have it be called the USRRC (even if there is a token round in Canada and/or Mexico).
I agree about GX. To this point GX IMO is more in line with Conti, per their current performance level.
I think (hope) G'X' will become an add on to a class that best suits the individual cars that qualify as an 'X', performance level. From Conti all the way to GTLM.









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Old 14 Mar 2013, 19:29 (Ref:3218498)   #4
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Already a fake twitter account on the go by the looks of things.

Why do people bother I really don't know. https://twitter.com/USCRSeries
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Old 14 Mar 2013, 19:48 (Ref:3218509)   #5
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I can seriously see Prototypes and GT cars combined for the larger circuits and separate races for the smaller circuits, and I can also see the Prototypes running on their own at Long Beach and Baltimore and the GT cars running on their own in Detroit and possibly Mosport.

I think the combined series needs to find a place for all of the circuits on both the ALMS and the Grand-Am series. Those circuits have stood behind both series, and now this combined series needs to step up and support ALL of the circuits.
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Old 14 Mar 2013, 20:10 (Ref:3218528)   #6
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As for the name, if you hate it, blame this fan from Florida

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The concept of having you help us write history began months ago. We needed a name for our new racing series. We asked for ideas from our fans of the American Le Mans Series presented by Tequila Patrón and the GRAND-AM Rolex SportsCar Series.

Nearly 8,000 ideas were submitted! Louis Saterlee, 25, of Florida suggested United SportsCar Racing. What a great name, made even better by Louis’s story. He was hooked to motorsport at the age of two, was the 2011 Florida Karting Championship Series – Rookie of the Year, and has been attending both the Rolex 24 At Daytona and the Twelve Hours of Sebring with this father for 22 consecutive years!

“Sportscar racing became my religion,” explains Satterlee. As for the name? He adds, “United, because two series are now one. SportsCar because it’s what we do. And Racing because, is there really any other way these machines should be run?”
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Old 14 Mar 2013, 20:20 (Ref:3218535)   #7
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I can seriously see Prototypes and GT cars combined for the larger circuits and separate races for the smaller circuits, and I can also see the Prototypes running on their own at Long Beach and Baltimore and the GT cars running on their own in Detroit and possibly Mosport.

I think the combined series needs to find a place for all of the circuits on both the ALMS and the Grand-Am series. Those circuits have stood behind both series, and now this combined series needs to step up and support ALL of the circuits.
I completely agree. I can see the 2014 USCR running a 15-20 race calendar. What do you guys think the schedule will look like? I suppose I'll take the first crack at it...

1. 24 Hours of Daytona (Jan.)
2. 12 Hours of Sebring (March)
3. Barber (April)
4. Long Beach (April)
5. Laguna Seca (May)
6. Detroit (June)
7. Mid-Ohio (June)
8. Sahlen's 6 Hours of the Glen (June)
9. Lime Rock (July)
10. Mosport (July)
11. Indy (July)
12. Road America (August)
13. Kansas (August)
14. Baltimore (August)
15. COTA (September)
16. VIR (October)
17. Petit Le Mans (October)

I'd like to see them add Sonoma, Miller, Montreal, and maybe another street race to make it twenty (like St. Petersburg, Toronto, Houston, etc.). Or that new NOLA Motorsports Park... that 6 mile layout looks pretty sweet!
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Old 14 Mar 2013, 20:21 (Ref:3218536)   #8
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By the way my suggestion was the United Sports Car Racing Championship... that rolls off the tongue better, but I'm too young to enter!
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I can seriously see Prototypes and GT cars combined for the larger circuits and separate races for the smaller circuits, and I can also see the Prototypes running on their own at Long Beach and Baltimore and the GT cars running on their own in Detroit and possibly Mosport.

I think the combined series needs to find a place for all of the circuits on both the ALMS and the Grand-Am series. Those circuits have stood behind both series, and now this combined series needs to step up and support ALL of the circuits.
Agreed. I hope they make it at least twelve rounds and send CTSCC, GT3, Pro Mazda (is that IMSA sanctioned anymore?), Lites and such to the circuits that are likely threatened by the unification of schedules. Of course, it won't mean much without the big series, I suspect. For the sake of the circuits, I wish SCCA Pro Racing could draw significantly on standalone weekends like they did in the Trans-Am era.

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http://www.unitedsportscar.com/
I feel bad that Louis' idea has been so roundly dismissed by fans from across the board. He is one of my fellow "centrists", a member of the Midweek Motorsports Listener's Collective and a nice guy. His words really resonate for me. I too have made the pilgrimage to Florida year after year and to have SportsCar racing back under one roof really is a best of both worlds situation. He was excited by unification, hence his inclusion of "United" in the title and he is getting roasted. I don't think he designed the helmet logo, FWIW! Haha!

I think the brand will catch on with the hardcore the same way ALMS and Grand-Am caught on. To future fans United SportsCar Racing will simply mean sports car racing. The true meaning of United will likely be lost on them, but that is irrelevant in the long run. The idea will be to stay united and grow. No problems with the branding, which is likely to change with the inclusion of sponsorship branding.

Chris

Edit: my idea of a likely schedule

24 Hours of Daytona
12 Hours of Sebring
Grand Prix of Long Beach (split races or one of P & PC or GTLM & GTD racing with IndyCar)
Laguna Seca
Detroit
Watkins Glen 6 Hours
Mosport
Indy
Mid-Ohio
Road America
CoTA
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Old 14 Mar 2013, 20:43 (Ref:3218550)   #10
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Hate to be negative (no, seriously) but "United" is a ridiculous word to include.

Did the series organizers think it would only last a couple years? By 2018 or 2020 no one will care about ALMS or Rolex, and there will only have been a single series for five or seven years. What will "united" mean then? As well call it "atavistic."

No offense to the guy who thought it up, but he was thinking of the Very short term, the actual period while the merger is being effected. After that ... well, my wife is no longer "my fiancee, you know"? We are no longer "engaged."

On top of that, Use-Car, or Us-Car ... neither rolls off the tongue. Rather they skid off the tongue ripping flesh as they go.

Add to that the meaningless, simplistic, non-identifying logo ("Hey, look at the sticker on this guy's hauler----I guess he sells helmets,") and wht it comes down to is ALMS has once again spent a ridiculous sum of money to get it Totally Wrong.

Scott Atherton emphasized that they knew they only had one chance to get it right---so they paid the firm which handles the NFL, NHL and Kentucky Derby---and then went with a submission from a kart driver, and a logo that communicates nothing.

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20 races looks nice on paper, what will not look nice on paper is the figure next to "Budget:".

Can't possibly find the link, but I think during one of the previous announcements somebody from ALMS/IMSA side was talking about the 12-round calendar.
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20 races looks nice on paper, what will not look nice on paper is the figure next to "Budget:".

Can't possibly find the link, but I think during one of the previous announcements somebody from ALMS/IMSA side was talking about the 12-round calendar.
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The new name and logo will take me some getting used to also - but I will get used to it and am happy we finally have something to call this other than "the merger".

20 races seems like alot unless the schedule really takes travel into account, but F1 has that many races all over the world. In my opinion 15 seems about right starting with Daytona 24 in Jan. thru Petit in October. That is aprox. 2-3 races per month with some breaks during the season + summer break/Le Mans. That should be enough to keep people interested. I do like the GTLM class designation...
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I hope they make it at least twelve rounds and send CTSCC, GT3, Pro Mazda (is that IMSA sanctioned anymore?), Lites and such to the circuits that are likely threatened by the unification of schedules. Of course, it won't mean much without the big series, I suspect. For the sake of the circuits, I wish SCCA Pro Racing could draw significantly on standalone weekends like they did in the Trans-Am era.

I think the brand will catch on with the hardcore the same way ALMS and Grand-Am caught on. To future fans United SportsCar Racing will simply mean sports car racing. The true meaning of United will likely be lost on them, but that is irrelevant in the long run. The idea will be to stay united and grow. No problems with the branding, which is likely to change with the inclusion of sponsorship branding.

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Hate to be negative (no, seriously) but "United" is a ridiculous word to include.

Did the series organizers think it would only last a couple years? By 2018 or 2020 no one will care about ALMS or Rolex, and there will only have been a single series for five or seven years. What will "united" mean then? As well call it "atavistic."
I think it was Ed Bennett who said he hopes that in the future the 'united' part of the name represents the united nature of the teams, partners/suppliers in the series.

So united as a pose to being at war?
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