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Old 15 Sep 2004, 01:19 (Ref:1096893)   #1
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New owners for Holden Motorsport??

Strong RUMOUR has it that a certain Mr.Crennan and a certain Mr.Walkinshaw will end up the new owners of Holden Motorsport. If I was Mr.Skaife I would be passing bricks through a particular orrifice at the thought of this deal coming off.
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Old 15 Sep 2004, 01:23 (Ref:1096897)   #2
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And what exactly do you mean by 'Holden Motorsport'?????
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Old 15 Sep 2004, 01:42 (Ref:1096903)   #3
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And what exactly do you mean by 'Holden Motorsport'?????
Ummm, I can't possibly be any more specific. Holden Motorsort the entity, that controls the umbrella that HRT, KMR and PWR are under. They build the HM engines, employ the majority of employees for the 3 Teams. They organize the logistics of the 3 Teams and control many other things.
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Old 15 Sep 2004, 01:47 (Ref:1096905)   #4
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And why would they sell it? Isn't this meant to be the official front office for racing operations in Australia.
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Old 15 Sep 2004, 01:53 (Ref:1096910)   #5
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From memory didn't TWR try this a number of years back?
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Old 15 Sep 2004, 02:10 (Ref:1096914)   #6
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Ummm, I can't possibly be any more specific. Holden Motorsort the entity, that controls the umbrella that HRT, KMR and PWR are under. They build the HM engines, employ the majority of employees for the 3 Teams. They organize the logistics of the 3 Teams and control many other things.
So the 3 HRT camps are still coming out of the one tent with three different names :confused:
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Old 15 Sep 2004, 02:14 (Ref:1096916)   #7
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Tom was seen in the airport at singapore enroute to or from OZ 2 days ago....hmmmm
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Old 15 Sep 2004, 03:20 (Ref:1096936)   #8
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Ummm, I can't possibly be any more specific. Holden Motorsort the entity, that controls the umbrella that HRT, KMR and PWR are under. They build the HM engines, employ the majority of employees for the 3 Teams. They organize the logistics of the 3 Teams and control many other things.
So as far as the teams are concerned they are volunteers? Strange...
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Old 15 Sep 2004, 04:26 (Ref:1096945)   #9
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So as far as the teams are concerned they are volunteers? Strange...
No. HM contract the staff out to the individual teams.

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Old 15 Sep 2004, 05:59 (Ref:1096967)   #10
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I wonder were Jeffro stands in all this ?
Is he a Skaife fan ? or would he like it to be just like the good old days - manager 1 driver 1.
They still cruzing the seas together ?
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Old 15 Sep 2004, 06:33 (Ref:1096974)   #11
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How can a contract for a team that Skaife owns be passed back to its former owner?

Or maybe I am having a blonde moment?
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Old 15 Sep 2004, 07:20 (Ref:1096990)   #12
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its not the team that skaife owns, its the company that owns skaifes staff, cars, sponsorship..
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Old 15 Sep 2004, 09:29 (Ref:1097062)   #13
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it's not the dial that makes Craig smile?
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Old 15 Sep 2004, 09:45 (Ref:1097069)   #14
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There are changes afoot in the world of Holden Motorsport, that much seems a certainty.

There is a school of thought around to suggest that perhaps there will be more than one "Official" factory Holden team, however it seems Mr Skaife's contract precludes such things.

If you thought about this for a while, the HSV branding appears on each of the cars containing a HMS engine... all 8 of them... so its not beyond the realms of possibility that HSV plays a bigger role in the motorsport arm than currently enjoyed....

... the primary issue here however is, as always, the intellectual property... the knowledge and skills and information built up and acquired over the many years of this structure.... I doubt Holden would want to give this away for free....
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Old 16 Sep 2004, 02:47 (Ref:1097828)   #15
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i suppose if it isn't getting used in one place, wouldn't it be better to be used somewhere else? after all, all holden would want is a holden to be winning.
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Old 16 Sep 2004, 10:02 (Ref:1098025)   #16
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Ask a silly question time... Does Ford Motorsport (or whatever they are called) have a similar set-up? Perhaps the Beehag chassis?
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HSV branding appears on each of the cars containing a HMS engine... all 8 of them...
2x HRT
2x KRT
2x PWR
1x Tizmun

Who is the other?

Also I dont think there is much in the way of HSV signage on car 3?
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Old 16 Sep 2004, 10:26 (Ref:1098057)   #18
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There were 2 Tasman cars at Oran Park, and will be 2 cars next year (apparently...) so there is 8....

Whispers suggest the 2005 pecking order may be a little different however
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Ahh, i see, still no HSV signage though, Wals ute aint no Maloo!

Funny the visible difference in flame out put between different cars with the HMS engines!!

How many at Bathurst will be using Auroras?
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Old 17 Sep 2004, 08:21 (Ref:1099015)   #20
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Isn't one each of the GRM, CPR cars and Paul Morris using a HMS engine?
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HMS in this sence meaning engines built by Holden Motor Sport, where as the "NEW" holden racing engine is being described as the Aurora.
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I wonder if HMS will buy Cosworth Racing now that Ford dont want it any more?
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Is Cosworth building the Champ engines ?

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