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Old 30 May 2003, 13:14 (Ref:614727)   #1
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Why? Explain me why ?

:confused: Why the Ligne Droite des Hunaudières is called Mulsanne straight on the other side of the channel ?

Is it just because there's one Bentley model which is called Mulsanne and not Hunaudieres ?
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Old 30 May 2003, 14:59 (Ref:614822)   #2
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:confused: Why the Ligne Droite des Hunaudières is called Mulsanne straight on the other side of the channel ?

Is it just because there's one Bentley model which is called Mulsanne and not Hunaudieres ?
Probably because the average Englishman can't pronounce 'Hunaudières'!
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Old 30 May 2003, 16:23 (Ref:614942)   #3
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And there was a Bentley called Hunaudières - albeit only a show car
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Old 30 May 2003, 16:26 (Ref:614945)   #4
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I think the Bentley Mulsanne was named after the straight, so that's no explanation.

In short - I don't know!
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Old 30 May 2003, 16:43 (Ref:614966)   #5
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We've just always called it that i think. It's the long straight before a kink and a tight corner with the same name. It's just much easier for us to say "The Mulsanne Straight", than "La Ligne Droite de Hunaudieres"

it's 4 syllables versus 8.....
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Old 30 May 2003, 17:02 (Ref:614989)   #6
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Gilles, I tried to promote 'Hunaudières', but I didn't have much more success...

I still use it anyway !
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Old 30 May 2003, 17:07 (Ref:614994)   #7
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I try to say Hunaudieres Fab, but i usually forget to. Mulsannes just comes naturally now...
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Old 30 May 2003, 18:30 (Ref:615079)   #8
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Mulsanne straight is a geographical nonsense anyway!

the most part of the straight is located on the city of Ruaudin, the fist part is on the Le Mans territory and only the few last hudreds metres are on the Mulsanne territory.

Probably prononciation is the best explanation!
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Old 30 May 2003, 20:38 (Ref:615212)   #9
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I'm nearly old enough to recall the Pontlieu hairpin......
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Old 30 May 2003, 20:38 (Ref:615213)   #10
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i suspect it's more laziness on our part....
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Old 30 May 2003, 21:10 (Ref:615244)   #11
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Would someone mind posting the phonetical pronounciation of "La Ligne Droite de Hunaudieres". I am totally clueless on how to pronounce it...
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Old 30 May 2003, 21:20 (Ref:615249)   #12
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um, i think it's like this

Lah Leen Dwut d Hun-oh-dee-air

(It really looks stupid like that doesn't it!)
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Old 30 May 2003, 21:25 (Ref:615254)   #13
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Ah, see, that's your reason.

Now, to an American, that would be pronounced "La Lig-nee Droit dez Hugh-nad-ee-air-ez" (or "Hugh-na-deerz" in some parts).

So you should be glad we just say Mulsanne (although some yokels insist on saying "Mul-sain").

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Old 30 May 2003, 21:50 (Ref:615275)   #14
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I've checked some early UK LM reports I have and whilst they start in 1929 as the Hunaudieres, a few years later the name goes away, the 'Cafe de Hippodrome' is shown as well as Mulsanne corner. The straight refered to as 'The Straight'

Early 1950's Hunaudieres reappears, BUT about 55 / 56 Autosport starts with the 'Staight to Mulsanne Corner' Cafe Hippodrome still shown as the only name between the 2 and 7km markers. Late 58 I see references to 'Down the Mulsanne straight'

Around the 60's corner and '63 see's several referances to 'Down the Mulsanne' and the 'Mulsanne Straight' in Autosport/Motor/Motor Sport etc.

Finally, 67, the map has a 'Mulsanne' printed along the Ford map to the straight, the year of the GT40.

Seems Ford is the culprit, following year '68 most Ford drivers were quoting speeds down the 'Mulsanne' ACO were still printing 'Hunaudieres' though, first Mulsanne type ACO type map I can see is '72.

just about every referance from then on is to 'The Mulsanne' or 'Mulsanne straight'. Hunaudieres appears now and then but normally in talk about the cafe/bar.

I can try and look details up later if needed, it was a fairly brief flick though. However between 64 - 68 the name seems to have stuck. Not surprising given the huge fights between Ford / Ferrari / Porsche / Lola / Matra / Alfa / Chapperal at the time.

So "The straight to Mulsanne Corner" became "Mulsanne Straight" I assume as a commentry shortcut.

I rest my case M'Lord

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Old 30 May 2003, 21:59 (Ref:615286)   #15
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Where'd you get all that?
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Old 30 May 2003, 22:09 (Ref:615296)   #16
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Old 30 May 2003, 22:09 (Ref:615297)   #17
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As a Yank, Gilles & Fab, you would much rather have me call it the "Mulsanne Straight" that have to listen to me butcher your language, as ell as the beautful sounding and more accurate name for the Mulsanne Straight...

Trust me on this one.....
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Old 31 May 2003, 03:59 (Ref:615475)   #18
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I even took a few years of French but i can barely eek out an acceptable pronunciation of "Hunaudieres"...I'd be afraid to try it in France for fear of someone slapping me for screwing it all up.
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Old 31 May 2003, 06:51 (Ref:615508)   #19
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So don't ask to local people the direction to "la ligne de Mulsanne" because they'ld be lost and give you the deviation road to go to the city and not the straight.

So I gonna keep say "Ligne Droite (which is not really striaght BTW) des Hunaudières" as a French cultural exception !!!!!!!
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...to listen to me butcher your language...
You missed one thing here : we LOVE to ear french spoken with an accent : it's exotical ! So don't bother the way you pronounce it, I like it the way you do... or is it what FG calls my 'englophily' ? And what do you think of the way I butcher your language each day here, and you didn't heard me talk ! (Oh my Gawd, stone the crows )

The Simon's explanation is remarquable

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I first got really interested in Le Mans in 1958 - guess why !! - and we certainly called it the Mulsanne straight then.
I always assumed it was called that because it was the road which went towards the village of Mulsanne.
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