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Old 7 Nov 2016, 19:39 (Ref:3686295)   #1
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2017 Historic Race Meetings, dates, club calendars....

Here we go again..... With two major organisers having announced their calendars, and some other dates released, time to start listing all we know so that the HRT Calendar can follow on in due course.

PETER AUTO RACE MEETINGS...... (Not including Tours etc)

31 Mar - 02 Apr. Jarama Classic

19 - 21 May. Spa Classic

9 - 11 June. GP de L'Age D' Or (Dijon Prenois)

30 Jun - 02 July. Monza Historic

29 Sep - 01 Oct. Hungaroring Classic

20 - 22 Oct. Dix Mille Tours ( Le Castellet)

MASTERS RACE MEETINGS...... (Including those where they are an invited organiser)

08/09 Apr. Espritu de Montjuic (Barcelona)

27/28 May. Brands Hatch (GP) Historic Festival

30 Jun - 02 July. GP de France Historique (Magny Cours)

21 - 23 July. Silverstone Classic

11 - 13 Aug. Oldtimer GP (Nurburgring)

01 - 03 Sep. Zandvoort Historic GP

15 - 17 Sep. Spa '6 hrs'

21 - 22 Oct. Estoril Classic

I think it's certain from another thread that Pau Historique is to be held on 26 - 28 May, clashing with Brands Festival and sandwiched between Spa and Dijon events.....

And it was announced at the recent Algarve Festival that the 2017 date would be 27 - 29 October, so the month already has back to back meetings (that could work for some- Estoril followed by Portimao) and a European clash with Le Castellet and Estoril on same w/ends. (That won't work for anyone.)

Good to see organisers are working together to attract customers......
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Old 8 Nov 2016, 12:15 (Ref:3686487)   #2
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You mean like the International Motorsport Show,London cunningly clashes with Race Retro at Stoneleigh. Can't be good for either so we'll go to neither!
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You mean like the International Motorsport Show, London cunningly clashes with Race Retro at Stoneleigh. Can't be good for either so we'll go to neither!
Yup, that does seem a strange clash. Makes one wonder if there is an ulterior motive! I believe the London Show is an add-on to a classic car show already on the calendar?
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there seems to e a tentative HSCC calendar
a draft of it was circulated during the HFF drivers briefing at the Finals

will write it up and try to post here
I took photos...

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Sneaky! Thanks, Rudolf. We'll just have to emphasise that it's tentative / provisional.

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Looking at Masters calendar, it clicked that they're not holding their usual meeting at Donington in 2017. There is rumour that another Organiser will not be supporting the early May Historic Festival, either. Will be interesting to see what grids are there when all comes out of the woodwork......
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Old 8 Nov 2016, 22:19 (Ref:3686622)   #7
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Sneaky! Thanks, Rudolf. We'll just have to emphasise that it's tentative / provisional.


Here we go.....

April 8 Donington

Mai 20-21 Silverstone Inter

June 17-18 Cadwell Park

July 1-2 Brands Hatch Legends (formerly known as Superprix)

July 22-23 Silverstone Classic

August 5-6 Croft

August 26-28 Oulton Park

September 22-23 Brands Hatch Indy

October 14-15 Silverstone Finals

good old reliable HSCC, no real surprises in it, which is good
no season opener in Kyalami, no summer spree to Sepang either


as said before, this is tentative
Bernie might shake it up if he screws with British GP date in any way

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You mean like the International Motorsport Show,London cunningly clashes with Race Retro at Stoneleigh. Can't be good for either so we'll go to neither!
Currently they are pitched at different markets and Motor Sport has thrown its weight behind RR. Still, it is difficult to see how the tow can exist on the same weekend. I'm old enough to remember when Haymarket set up a rival show to the Racing Car Show, and look what happened there!

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Old 9 Nov 2016, 13:06 (Ref:3686740)   #9
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Don't write off HSCC Snetterton completely yet, but even if it goes ahead, not sure the 3 hours will be 3 hours, if you see what I mean. Mike you may have 'hit the nail'.

VSCC , I think are just finalising their dates.

BDC, Silverstone - 5th August

Castle Combe Autumn Classic - 7th October

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give me Donington over Snetterton any day

havent been to Snet for ages
hate the new layout

yes,
i am chuffed that HSCC Donny might be back on
was a shame when that stopped, this year


as to Donington Historic
yes, will be interesting to see, what happens with that event
they became a bit big for their shoes lately

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Like Rudi, I loved the old Snetterton layout, and would not miss it. 3 years ago, I did the HSCC Snetterton on the '300' layout and loathed it. I have not been back since, and will not in the future.

Whether accurate or not, I was told that the new layout was designed with modern open-wheeler cars and championships in mind and everyone else could like it or leave it.

I left.
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tentative hscc dates

Whatever happened to the Easter revival meeting at Thruxton? It was heralded a few years back as being the great comeback for historic F2 with the Jochen Rindt trophy but never materialised into anything much at all. Great shame that there's no early spring meeting again next year even if it's always freezing!
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Whatever happened to the Easter revival meeting at Thruxton? It was heralded a few years back as being the great comeback for historic F2 with the Jochen Rindt trophy but never materialised into anything much at all. Great shame that there's no early spring meeting again next year even if it's always freezing!

I think that meeting was slowly building up into something, the longer it ran
traditional track
traditional date
traditional meeting

and just when we had all gotten used to it and reserved the slot in our diaries...
meaning well
the HSCC did not do it because they had their aniversary and wanted to go to Castle Combe where they had their first meeting

and that seems to have killed the Thruxton meeting
at least for now

as i said, well meant
and usually the HSCC are clever and stick to established formats

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the Easter date was not without problems
some wives did not like the idea of their husband going racing over Easter instead of hunting eggs with the brats

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Whether accurate or not, I was told that the new layout was designed with modern open-wheeler cars and championships in mind and everyone else could like it or leave it.

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Presumably you guys would be OK with the 200 circuit which cuts out the 'twiddly' bits and is pretty much the old circuit with just contour changes to Sears (now Montreal) and Coram to Murrays.
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Presumably you guys would be OK with the 200 circuit which cuts out the 'twiddly' bits and is pretty much the old circuit with just contour changes to Sears (now Montreal) and Coram to Murrays.
When the comments were made I didn't want to get into a 300 v 200 discussion (especially being a local!), but since you asked John....

The 200, as you say is close to the previous layout. IMO the old Sear was a pain, and now it's more of a chicane doesn't make it any worse for me. Coram is OK until it turns into Murrays! There are a lot worse corners to be found at some other circuits, however. Re, the 300 layout, I'm OK with it, Palmer is a great corner (again- IMO), and the others are no better or worse than many to be found elsewhere.....
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Yes but let's hope they just allow historic cars this time . None of those German clowns . "Sorry Rudolf". No offence to you . . I am impressed that all these dates seem to be published very early . The G P season not finished yet .
I thought a lot of the more modern German cars entered were part of the Iberian Historic Endurance- i.e. Spanish and Portugese?

Next year's F1 dates have been out for some time, so unless something changes on their calendar, Historic organisers such as Goodwood can fix their dates. Then the rest can slot in......
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CSCC Provisional dates just released:

April 1/2:.................................Snetterton 300
April 22/23:.............................Thruxton
May 27/28:..............................Silverstone International
June 23 - 25:...........................Spa
July 22/23:..............................Croft
August 12/13:.........................Castle Combe
September 9/10:.....................Donington (National)
October 7:...............................Oulton Park International
November 11/12:....................Brands Indy (with Night race)

A good programme, in my estimation
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Thanks Richard! I wonder if there will be a test day at Snetterton before the first race?

No Anglesey.....
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Thanks Richard! I wonder if there will be a test day at Snetterton before the first race?

No Anglesey.....
the test day is March 23rd....
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As said a specific pre-season Test day - also often opportunity to test on the Friday at other circuits - eg half-day testing at Thruxton....

Not so helpful if you are racing Sunday, of course at a distant circuit as its another night's accommodation
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No Anglesey.....
A very great shame. Anglesey does tend to be on the CSCC calendar every other year though, so I'd expect it to be back in 2018.
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