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Old 6 Jan 2018, 18:25 (Ref:3791029)   #1426
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Old 6 Jan 2018, 18:37 (Ref:3791031)   #1427
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The Riley looks absolutely undrivable. Every time you see it, it's oversteering, understeering and not steering.
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Old 6 Jan 2018, 20:40 (Ref:3791051)   #1428
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The Riley looks absolutely undrivable. Every time you see it, it's oversteering, understeering and not steering.
They are running without the updates which should help that.
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Old 6 Jan 2018, 20:52 (Ref:3791054)   #1429
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Maybe the teams and drivers in the series asked for this? Maybe it is a safety issue? Lots of things could be behind this.
The P3 teams may have wanted it, but I strongly doubt the MPC teams wanted to be kicked to the curb. Most of them do not have the money to run an LMP3, after all. Even if P3 gets a car count boost next year, I don't see this being an overall positive move for the series.

As for safety issues... If the Conti series can manage being a two-class series, no reason PC can't.
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Old 6 Jan 2018, 20:55 (Ref:3791055)   #1430
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The P3 teams may have wanted it, but I strongly doubt the MPC teams wanted to be kicked to the curb. Most of them do not have the money to run an LMP3, after all. Even if P3 gets a car count boost next year, I don't see this being an overall positive move for the series.

As for safety issues... If the Conti series can manage being a two-class series, no reason PC can't.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but the exact same argument was made for the PC class staying. That turned out to not be an issue.
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Old 7 Jan 2018, 01:07 (Ref:3791104)   #1431
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but the exact same argument was made for the PC class staying. That turned out to not be an issue.
The difference here, though, is that the PC class was being replaced. Teams that couldn't afford a P2 had a new place to go to, even if they did still have to buy new cars for it.

This is literally just knocking a class completely out of the IMSA hierarchy. Teams that want to run cheap prototypes but can't afford a P3(which, frankly, barely counts as a "cheap" prototype) literally have no option within IMSA anymore. And there are very few options for them outside of IMSA - unless you have a Radical, the only option outside of club racing are a couple of small regional championships.

And let's be honest... Look at the field size of each class. LMP3 does not need a boost to it's car count, and MPC was not struggling for sufficient entries. (not for a two-class series, at least)
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Old 7 Jan 2018, 01:08 (Ref:3791105)   #1432
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They are running without the updates which should help that.
P2 or P3 car?
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Old 7 Jan 2018, 01:14 (Ref:3791106)   #1433
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P2 or P3 car?
Looks like I got my wires crossed, but probably applies to both! ROFL
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Old 9 Jan 2018, 16:30 (Ref:3791567)   #1434
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The car is actually coming a long way. I'm one of the drivers of the Riley, and after the pit stops we were consistently the quickest car on track until I got hit by Cassels which damaged the diffuser rather badly (missed setup before that a bit). I've coached in the Ligier last year, and the cars are different. The Riley is close, but needs development from having a pro level driver in the car. We'll be there pretty darn soon

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Old 9 Jan 2018, 17:22 (Ref:3791581)   #1435
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The car is actually coming a long way. I'm one of the drivers of the Riley, and after the pit stops we were consistently the quickest car on track until I got hit by Cassels which damaged the diffuser rather badly (missed setup before that a bit). I've coached in the Ligier last year, and the cars are different. The Riley is close, but needs development from having a pro level driver in the car. We'll be there pretty darn soon

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How was the car to drive? It was fast but looked more difficult to extract the speed from than the Norma and Ligier.

The LMP3 looks miles better than last year for sure. The LMP2 looks still stuck at the back of the grid unfortunately.
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Old 9 Jan 2018, 17:43 (Ref:3791583)   #1436
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In some ways it's easier. The loss of grip is more progressive than the ligier, which is why you see us move around more, you can without it killing you. We're def a lower drag car (at Daytona we were more trimmed out than anyone) so high speed is a bit tough. There's still some work to be done to get the front working how I want in really slow corners, but it seems achievable. I feel the setup window is wider for the car, but right now the optimum pace isn't quite as quick on twisty circuits. With very little pro time in the car I feel we have more dev room.

Daytona we were MUCH quicker than all the ligiers at the test, but 3 days before the race the ACO told IMSA the ligier was allowed to lose 11 mm of wicker for Daytona only, and can revert back for other rounds, where we have to run the same package year long, so there's a bit of a struggle there.
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Old 12 Jan 2018, 22:35 (Ref:3792380)   #1437
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The Ligier JS P4 was presented at the Birmingham Autosport Show.
Equipped with a Ford V6 3.7-liter engine that develops 420 horsepower, this car is homologated in the FIA ​​Free Formula Sports Cars category (Group E). It is positioned between the CN and the LM P3.
This car would be allow in Prototype Challenge.

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2020 LMP3 constructors confirmed

No Dome or Ave-Riley, which is hardly a surprise. I wonder if Ginetta and Adess will do any work on their cars.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/0...ion-cycle.html
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The Ligier JS P4 was presented at the Birmingham Autosport Show.
Equipped with a Ford V6 3.7-liter engine that develops 420 horsepower, this car is homologated in the FIA ​​Free Formula Sports Cars category (Group E). It is positioned between the CN and the LM P3.
This car would be allow in Prototype Challenge.

http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/la-...de-birmingham/
How would it be in PC? I thought they used the LMP3 rules as the base for the top tier before the Lites cars are retired and it's just LMP3 cars

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No Dome or Ave-Riley, which is hardly a surprise. I wonder if Ginetta and Adess will do any work on their cars.



http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/0...ion-cycle.html


Wonder how much body work change will be allowed
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No Dome or Ave-Riley, which is hardly a surprise. I wonder if Ginetta and Adess will do any work on their cars.
Ginetta's already done a ton of work on their LMP3 - the developments made to create the G57 and G58 will without a doubt be applied.
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Ginetta's already done a ton of work on their LMP3 - the developments made to create the G57 and G58 will without a doubt be applied.
Well, maybe they could do that, but will they? They have emphasised selling G57s and G58s for a profit rather than pursuing the cost-capped LMP3 route.
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Ginetta wasn't that happy with ACO as Adess felt they had nothing more to develop on their rubbish car. Can't wait to see the movie coming.
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Well, maybe they could do that, but will they? They have emphasised selling G57s and G58s for a profit rather than pursuing the cost-capped LMP3 route.
Why wouldn't they? They're on thenew homologation list and the G57 and G58 were both built off of the LMP3 chassis, so applying the updates would be extremely simple. Despite the cost cap, they can probably make money off of an updated LMP3 quite easily thanks to this.

The only real question about the idea is how the engine cover fits with the Nissan engine compared to the Chevy engine used in the G57/58.
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Ginetta wasn't that happy with ACO as Adess felt they had nothing more to develop on their rubbish car. Can't wait to see the movie coming.
Ginetta maybe are not interested as they have the super successfully LMP1 car to sell now

Adess? Who knows that answer? French arrogance that the Adess is perfect.....or inability or funding or interest to do any development?
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some news on the IMSA prototype challenge series:

Conquest is getting back into racing with a Ligier:
https://sportscar365.com/imsa/ipc/co...est-provoledo/

And Robillard/Muelhner have a Norma (or two) for the year:
https://sportscar365.com/imsa/ipc/ro...-breaks-cover/

This series kicks off at the Roar next week, and I am unsure of what type of grids to expect for the season. Good to see some announcements though.
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This series kicks off at the Roar next week, and I am unsure of what type of grids to expect for the season. Good to see some announcements though.
Entry list for the Roar LMP3 race - https://competitors.imsa.com/sites/d...entry_list.pdf

Here is the Roar schedule as well -
https://competitors.imsa.com/sites/d...r_121218_1.pdf

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Entry list for the Roar LMP3 race - https://competitors.imsa.com/sites/d...entry_list.pdf

Here is the Roar schedule as well -
https://competitors.imsa.com/sites/d...r_121218_1.pdf
Thanks, 19 cars isn't bad, but 30 would look better! Especially since they give a lot of trophies here
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So the Atlantic Racing ADESS didn't materialize after all, no big surprise :/ well it was a DISASTER at Sebring 4 Hours after all (despite okay pace)

The weird thing about the schedule is that the Proto Challenge race at CTMP is longer than the 'feature event'... the 3 hours should've gone to otherwise prototype-less VIR where they run to the sunset anyway. The Roar also gets weak TV production (less cameras) due to no other series having TV coverage that weekend, at least that was the case last year

Anyway Sebring will be interesting for LMP1, LMP2 and DPi pace comparisons with LMP3

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