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Old 7 Apr 2017, 16:53 (Ref:3724389)   #1
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Donington Park rounds 4,5 & 6 2017

next weekend we got the BTCC hitting Donington Park and hopefully got the start line shunts out of the way from last time out.

I wonder what role our bank holiday weather going to play a part as normally bank holiday = rain
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Old 7 Apr 2017, 17:28 (Ref:3724402)   #2
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Interesting to see whether MG and Subaru are back on the pace. HARD should do well, Epps and Hill really shone at Brands and Donington should suit the VWs more.

Hoping for 6 different winners in 6 races again!
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Old 7 Apr 2017, 17:48 (Ref:3724413)   #3
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Matt Neal has no ballast on a track where the Honda always went well

so expect him front row
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Old 12 Apr 2017, 14:47 (Ref:3725863)   #4
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MG and Subaru will be in a better place with zero ballast.
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Old 12 Apr 2017, 20:08 (Ref:3725954)   #5
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Interesting point from Tin Top Tuesday was that Tom Chilton mentioned Kevin Berry was involved in some of the design work for the PMR Astra, obviously squeezed that in between leaving BMR & rejoining WSR 😉
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Interesting point from Tin Top Tuesday was that Tom Chilton mentioned Kevin Berry was involved in some of the design work for the PMR Astra, obviously squeezed that in between leaving BMR & rejoining WSR 😉
Building up some FWD data before WSR change to the next 1-series?
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Building up some FWD data before WSR change to the next 1-series?
He's a motorsport consultant through his company Code Automotive.
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He's a motorsport consultant through his company Code Automotive.
So not quite leaving and joining teams as was described?

All the same, perhaps it was an ideal opportunity to gain more NGTC FWD data and experience, that can be useful to have in the portfolio.
Has he worked with many other FWD NGTC cars do you know?
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 08:18 (Ref:3726053)   #9
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Has anyone read the BMW/WSR press release ahead of the Donington rounds? Turks, Collard and Bennetts all get in a mention that Donington is a "FWD circuit". I found that an interesting thing to read in all three statements...

http://www.wsr-racing.com/team-bmw-want-more-success
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MG and Subaru will be in a better place with zero ballast.
Mat Jackson is also very light - disappointing at Brands and a shame to lose a potential R3 win / podium.
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Mat Jackson is also very light - disappointing at Brands and a shame to lose a potential R3 win / podium.
With so many potential front-runners in the field this season, I suspect every round will see quite a few of the fancied cars running low ballast.

This time, we have (of the predicted pre-season favourites):

0 ballast - Neal, Austin, Taylor-Smith, Plato and the Brands pole man J.Smith.

All of the BMWs have some ballast on, so perhaps their 'reminder' that Donington is a FWD circuit also compensates for some possible slower times in qualy?
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 14:12 (Ref:3726100)   #12
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Has anyone read the BMW/WSR press release ahead of the Donington rounds? Turks, Collard and Bennetts all get in a mention that Donington is a "FWD circuit". I found that an interesting thing to read in all three statements...

http://www.wsr-racing.com/team-bmw-want-more-success
It's possibly because of the sweeping bends and the often bad weather which really does the BMW no favours.
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So not quite leaving and joining teams as was described?

All the same, perhaps it was an ideal opportunity to gain more NGTC FWD data and experience, that can be useful to have in the portfolio.
Has he worked with many other FWD NGTC cars do you know?
He designed the Mg in 2012 and was with triple eight for years. He is a WSR employee, but the consultancy will be a year round job.
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Ahh right. Thanks for the clarification. Perhaps I misunderstood it and read it as an employee who was moving teams.

I understand a lot of information does move around the paddock, it seems strange to me (as an outsider) for a WSR employee to be assisting any of their opposition?
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 16:30 (Ref:3726137)   #14
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Ahh right. Thanks for the clarification. Perhaps I misunderstood it and read it as an employee who was moving teams.

I understand a lot of information does move around the paddock, it seems strange to me (as an outsider) for a WSR employee to be assisting any of their opposition?
Maybe "employee" was the wrong word. He's more of a contractor. It's not unusual if he's got his own consultancy company. For example, the Audi Le Mans engineers were outside contractors too, it's how a lot of them operate. The btcc is a 6 month season, they need to fill in the other months with work too.
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Old 15 Apr 2017, 08:59 (Ref:3726529)   #15
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I think we could see a suprise HARD VW win, maybe R3. Hill & Epps going very well in FP1 so far; hopefully they can continue that over the weekend
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Old 15 Apr 2017, 13:22 (Ref:3726600)   #16
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The biggest continual conclusion to be drawn from all the times in sessions of late is that these cars are FAR too easy to drive. All drivers within 102.5% of the pole time. BTCC and Alan Gow try to use this as reason to wax lyrical about the competitiveness of the series; but in reality it just shows how homogenous and uninteresting it has become.
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The biggest continual conclusion to be drawn from all the times in sessions of late is that these cars are FAR too easy to drive. All drivers within 102.5% of the pole time. BTCC and Alan Gow try to use this as reason to wax lyrical about the competitiveness of the series; but in reality it just shows how homogenous and uninteresting it has become.
I don't think that conclusion is one that can be drawn easily.
The grid at the moment has less drivers and teams that are competing on a 'gentleman' basis.

True - The front runners are constrained by performance balancing to be not too far ahead, but also the back runners are operating to a higher standard than in previous seasons.
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Old 15 Apr 2017, 15:20 (Ref:3726646)   #18
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So much for the Subarus being nowhere!

Two drivers who failed to get a single point at Brands in the top five!

Motorbase surprisingly low down - especially Mat Jackson.
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Sutton on pole, Plato in 17th. Blimey. HARD looking good, Goff and Austin proving their pace was no fluke at Brands Hatch, meanwhile BMW are further down than they would like...
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I think with the rain predicted tomorrow, the BMWs and perhaps the Subaru's too will struggle.
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Excellent driving from Sutton. Someone else doesn't have a leg to stand on now.
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Remember when Triple Eight where competitive?
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Old 15 Apr 2017, 17:00 (Ref:3726675)   #23
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Sutton and Hill excluded - Austin on pole!
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Wow.
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I think with the rain predicted tomorrow, the BMWs and perhaps the Subaru's too will struggle.
Agreed Donington has a tricky wet surface which never really agrees with the BMWs, plus it's quite a cold circuit with the wind, so their front tyres are never up to optimum temperature.
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