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Old 27 Jul 2013, 09:15 (Ref:3282175)   #16
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Bernie isn't perfect and is clearly a shadow of his prime days and lately it can be argued recently he's done more harm than good.


However, who's to say his replacement won't be even worse? At least Bernie clearly has some passion for the sport which can't be denied, even if it comes second to making money. I'll always respect what Bernie did for the sport 500 years ago or whenever it was, and I have to admit I will probably miss him.
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 09:16 (Ref:3282178)   #17
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 11:44 (Ref:3282219)   #18
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Todt collaborates with Ecclestone on board the Death Star. *cue death star theme*

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Old 27 Jul 2013, 12:21 (Ref:3282226)   #19
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Todt collaborates with Ecclestone on board the Death Star. *cue death star theme*

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109007
I think we've all seen that. The big question is: Will it work?

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Old 27 Jul 2013, 12:55 (Ref:3282235)   #20
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Thanks for the intro ottostreet. I always like to read the background on a race as there can always be some detail that's been forgotten,
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 14:08 (Ref:3282253)   #21
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So Lulu's on pole, Finger Boy's second with Fat John and Nico 3rd and 4th, followed by Alonso and Kimi; should be an interesting start.
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 14:57 (Ref:3282267)   #22
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Impressed with Grosjean today, he was great. Ricciardo too.

It seemed like an easy pole for Vettel but Mercedes after are always there even if they are playing the underdog lately. If Lewis can keep Vettel behind into the first corner it can be an interesting race, otherwise the RedBull will escape, Vettel and Webber showed a very good race pace yesterday.
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 15:26 (Ref:3282285)   #23
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Thought it was funny that Vettel knew of Webber having a KERS issue, AND a gearbox issue as well, immediately after quali. Not aware of Mark having a gearbox issue. Nothing mentioned during the telecast, any of the post race interviews, or any reports anywhere about a Webber gearbox issue.

Or does Vettel know something we don't???
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 15:28 (Ref:3282286)   #24
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Kimi doesn't seem to be "there" in qualifying. In this performance, is he thinking about his new contract and not the task at hand?
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Wouldn't it be easier and impossible to judge from the outside to just take away 10-20 bhp from Webber's engine, if they wanted to erase any risk of him beating Vettel ?
Why make it obvious and give all the fans and the media the excuse they are searching for to make conspiracy theories and hate on your team and your first driver ?
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Kimi doesn't seem to be "there" in qualifying. In this performance, is he thinking about his new contract and not the task at hand?
Famous Kimi brainfade...
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You have to wonder though, has there been an agenda at RBR since Vettel joined in '09 to make him the number one driver in the team?? Was it something that Marko, Horner & Co decided upon to make sure the world knew that the Red Bull young driver programme infact does have merit? Was it part of Vettel's contract? Or was it part of Marko's contract, to ensure that the RB YDP would produced a WDC? We all know Webber doesn't actually have, and never has had, a written contract to race for Red Bull. A loophole that Marko exploited perhaps??

IF that has been the case, and RBR indeed decided to make Vettel the number one driver in the team, and focus on him from 2009 onwards, one has to wonder how Vettel would feel about all his "achievements" so far. Would he feel as happy knowing that he's main competition was in fact restricted all these years? His main rival, and probably the only person that could have challenged him, maybe even for the WDC's, was deliberately held back and not allowed to challenge him?? Is this is why drivers like Alonso and Hamilton, don't rate Vettel much as a driver, and are always praising Newey's car?
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You have to wonder though, has there been an agenda at RBR since Vettel joined in '09 to make him the number one driver in the team?? Was it something that Marko, Horner & Co decided upon to make sure the world knew that the Red Bull young driver programme infact does have merit? Was it part of Vettel's contract? Or was it part of Marko's contract, to ensure that the RB YDP would produced a WDC? We all know Webber doesn't actually have, and never has had, a written contract to race for Red Bull. A loophole that Marko exploited perhaps??

IF that has been the case, and RBR indeed decided to make Vettel the number one driver in the team, and focus on him from 2009 onwards, one has to wonder how Vettel would feel about all his "achievements" so far. Would he feel as happy knowing that he's main competition was in fact restricted all these years? His main rival, and probably the only person that could have challenged him, maybe even for the WDC's, was deliberately held back and not allowed to challenge him?? Is this is why drivers like Alonso and Hamilton, don't rate Vettel much as a driver, and are always praising Newey's car?
If you write a book about all these theories I bet it would be a best-seller among F1 fans.
Seeing how many react whenever Seb grabs a pole or a win, they sure would be willing to read some fiction to escape the reality they don't want to face.
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