[WEC] 2018-2019 WEC Super Season

[Bentley03]

Does anyone by any chance have any historic LMP1 lap times from Motorland testing to compare those times to?

[Turbodcc]

Originally Posted by Bentley03

Does anyone by any chance have any historic LMP1 lap times from Motorland testing to compare those times to?

There was a Dunlop tyre tesT in 2016 with the LMP1 lights supposedly doing mid 1:21's. I would say Manor are only getting a feeling for the car today. Strange the article didn't give a time for the ART car

[Damian Baldi]

Originally Posted by joeb

Good to see the teams on the track testing. Hopefully Manor is going to get their head around the car and push that laptime down....

These are very early tests, so I don't know if lap times are so important for Manor. It's another story for BR because they have been doing tests there before.

[gregc]

Originally Posted by Damian Baldi

These are very early tests, so I don't know if lap times are so important for Manor. It's another story for BR because they have been doing tests there before.

This. Isn't this the first time since the shakedown that they've run the car?

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by Turbodcc

Strange the article didn't give a time for the ART car

CLM was "about tenth of a second faster" than ART-SMP-Dallara P1 if you believe google translate. Also that the RTN Dallara P2 was faster than the Ginetta

http://www.motorsport-total.com/wec/...ander-18021903

Wie Motorsport.com von Beobachtern in Aragon erfahren hat, erwischte ByKolles den besten Start in die Testarbeit. Tom Dillmann absolvierte seinen besten Umlauf in 1:18,3 Minuten und war somit rund eine Zehntelsekunde schneller als Michail Aljoschin im SMP-Fahrzeug. Charlie Robertson (Manor) hatte sechs Sekunden Rückstand und war im neuen Ginetta langsamer unterwegs als Giedo van der Garde im LMP2-Dallara vom Racing Team Nederland.

[Damian Baldi]

Originally Posted by gregc

This. Isn't this the first time since the shakedown that they've run the car?

I think it is the first test after the roll out at the airport.

[Bentley03]

Originally Posted by Turbodcc

There was a Dunlop tyre tesT in 2016 with the LMP1 lights supposedly doing mid 1:21's. I would say Manor are only getting a feeling for the car today. Strange the article didn't give a time for the ART car

That's what I was thinking, I'm sure the Rebellion P2 was less than a second slower than the R-One at Aragon the previous year, lapping in the 1:22's. So, 1:18.3 sounds pretty impressive to me, 4 seconds quicker than the new breed of P2's last year.

Lots and lots of unknowns, so impossible to draw any definitive conclusions, but carrying over the lap time difference between P1 and P2 at Aragon, gut feeling has to be that the privateer P1's really will be capable of sub 3:20's at Le Mans.

[LMPFan]

Originally Posted by Bentley03

That's what I was thinking, I'm sure the Rebellion P2 was less than a second slower than the R-One at Aragon the previous year, lapping in the 1:22's. So, 1:18.3 sounds pretty impressive to me, 4 seconds quicker than the new breed of P2's last year.

Lots and lots of unknowns, so impossible to draw any definitive conclusions, but carrying over the lap time difference between P1 and P2 at Aragon, gut feeling has to be that the privateer P1's really will be capable of sub 3:20's at Le Mans.

The fastest Oreca 07 teams ran around 3:25's at Lemans. Most of the LMP1 challenger's should easily be under the 3:20's. Also one thing you have to take into account is Aragon is a track where the LMP1's won't be able to put there HP advantage to use as much as a track like Lemans.

[Damian Baldi]

SMP on top, Ginetta 1.5 second behind (lost in translation?, it says the contrary than the previous article)

SMP Racing finished the first day of testing at the top of the Timesheet at Motorland Aragon. The BR1 has completed more than 100 laps. The Russian prototype, which shot in 1.17.657, was more than 1.5s ahead of the Ginetta G60-LT-P1 / CEFC TRSM Racing. Third time for the ENSO CLM P1 / 01 of ByKolles Racing which has just tested different tire solutions.

The Dallara P217 / Racing Team Nederland drove a lot, as did an Aston Martin Vantage GTE, both cars being the most active on the track.

source in french

[LMPFan]

Originally Posted by Damian Baldi

SMP on top, Ginetta 1.5 second behind (lost in translation?, it says the contrary than the previous article)



source in french

Do you know if the SMP Racing laptime was done in the cars high downforce package or low downforce package. This picture of the Dallara BR1 was taken at Motorland today.
https://image.ibb.co/kqFzi7/Capture_...a_14_57_43.png

[TF110]

Was the BR1 running the high downforce version when it did the 1:17.6? If not, it seems like the low-df kit is really good for the car. The CLM doing a 1:18 is a definite improvement as well. A 1:17 is 4 seconds faster than before on an 80 second lap, that's about a 5% improvement. If that 5% improvement translates to Le Mans, that's 10.2 seconds from a 3:24 lap time meaning 3:14's!

[canaglia]

guess that aragon layout used to test is the one with a long straight from turn 10 to fast left hairpin before turn 16. Anyway great laps improvements

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciudad...C3%B3n_FIM.svg

[Mike E]

352 kph

https://twitter.com/vitalypetrov/sta...86730857897984

[Bentley03]

Originally Posted by Mike E

352 kph

https://twitter.com/vitalypetrov/sta...86730857897984

Goodness!

[canaglia]

Well, last year at le mans a 930kg/600hp dallara lmp2 marked close to 340km/h....
guess how fast can be a further low drag aero developed dallara package powered by at least 650hp and about 100kg lighter

[Bentley03]

Let's just hope nobody's been misleading the ACO.

[LMPFan]

Here are videos to confirm the BR1 is running the low downforce kit.

https://streamable.com/rwvfh

https://streamable.com/zluzx

https://streamable.com/xjgbc

[LMPFan]

Originally Posted by canaglia

Well, last year at le mans a 930kg/600hp dallara lmp2 marked close to 340km/h....
guess how fast can be a further low drag aero developed dallara package powered by at least 650hp and about 100kg lighter

According to this article the AER engine produces 720hp and the gibson 4.5L V8 700 hp as of this moment.

https://paultan.org/2017/11/22/br-en...hassis-720-hp/

[LMPFan]

http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/ess...kolles-racing/ Dallara BR1 goes faster

1:17.580

[Bentley03]

Lunchtime update from Motorland:

Endurance-Info

Slightly quicker time from the BR1, with the CLM 2 seconds back and the Ginetta a further 2 seconds adrift. Seems the Ginetta only did 14 laps this morning though, Paul di Resta at the wheel.

[TF110]

I think Kolles is testing new drivers so that might be why they're a little slower. But that BR1 is very fast. I think we might see close to 360kmh this year at Le Mans.

[templer]

According to the driver's twitter accounts, Vitaly Petrov reached 352 kph with the BR1 yesterday which was topped by Tom Dillmann in the ByKolles with 355 kph today.
Seems both cars are very quick on the straights. I haven't noticed the promised new aero package for ByKolles so far.
As it is the first real test for Ginetta it is not surprising they are a bit behind

[TF110]

Originally Posted by templer

According to the driver's twitter accounts, Vitaly Petrov reached 352 kph with the BR1 yesterday which was topped by Tom Dillmann in the ByKolles with 355 kph today.
Seems both cars are very quick on the straights. I haven't noticed the promised new aero package for ByKolles so far.
As it is the first real test for Ginetta it is not surprising they are a bit behind

Same feeling on Ginetta. But they did a 1:19 yesterday iirc so that's not too bad. That 352, 355kmh is some crazy speed!

[Damian Baldi]

If the P1 cars are 4 o 5 seconds ahead of the Dallara P2 in a short track like this, how faster could they be at Le Mans? 3.18 3.15?

[Juntos]

If they go too fast; ACO will put brakes on them. Imagine a private LMP1 taking the overall pole-position at Le Mans. Unacceptable.