General Sportscar Chat thread - Page 58

Bcarr6 · 6 Mar 2018, 14:23 (Ref:3806273)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/m...ons-sports-car

The Alpine A110 now has GT4 and Cup versions.

The Alpine Europa Cup will start at Paul Ricard in June, and have additional rounds in Hockenheim, Spa-Francorchamps and Silverstone.

Does this look a little basic compared to the 570s, R8, AMG GT, M4 GT4s??

Accident · 7 Mar 2018, 00:45 (Ref:3806406)

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Originally Posted by Bcarr6

Does this look a little basic compared to the 570s, R8, AMG GT, M4 GT4s??

Yep, we probably need GT5 now for Alpine, Alfa 4C, BRZ, Miata, Ginetta G40.

TF110 · 7 Mar 2018, 05:53 (Ref:3806504)

Well the autocar article says the CUP CAR weighs 1050kg, so if it lacks some power it's no doubt that the GT4 version is able to run VERY light. There should be no reason it's heavier than the cup version of the A110.

Japanese Samurai · 10 Mar 2018, 11:10 (Ref:3807212)

Japanese Autosport web is reporting FIA establishes minimum sales unit for FIA-GT3.
FIA-GT3 manufacturers must sell at least 10 cars in 12 months since homologated, 20 cars in 24 months.
http://www.as-web.jp/sports-car/346690?all

broadrun96 · 10 Mar 2018, 21:47 (Ref:3807285)

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Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Japanese Autosport web is reporting FIA establishes minimum sales unit for FIA-GT3.
FIA-GT3 manufacturers must sell at least 10 cars in 12 months since homologated, 20 cars in 24 months.
http://www.as-web.jp/sports-car/346690?all

Must build those cars, if they want to build 20 in storage I don't think the FIA cares. You just have to actually prove you built 10, then 20 chassis. Looks like Lexus and Callaway will be done, Honda/Acura maybe as well but I didn't catch if that's retroactive or only for new homologation.

And I think that should shut the people who made previous claims Cadillac couldn't have real GT3 homologation, was nothing ever about having to sell or build minimums. The FIA hoped you would but didn't make it a rule.

Mountain Man · 11 Mar 2018, 08:48 (Ref:3807324)

The principle is sensible enough, they need to at least try and keep the idea of GT3 moderately under control, although with the issue of evo kits BoP I think its far from a stand alone solution or problem

**joeb** · 13 Mar 2018, 01:21 (Ref:3807647)

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Originally Posted by Mountain Man

The principle is sensible enough, they need to at least try and keep the idea of GT3 moderately under control, although with the issue of evo kits BoP I think its far from a stand alone solution or problem

I agree, they are trying to prevent manufacturers from coming into gt3 full stop. But this doesn't do anything to stop Audi/Porsche/Mercedes/BMW/etc. from donating drivers and support to select teams. Also, this doesn't do anything to costs overall which is probably what is driving many folks towards gt4.

StueyB83 · 13 Mar 2018, 06:32 (Ref:3807692)

I don't think they are preventing Manufacturers from entry, rather forcing their hand to have more involvement to serve customers as the formula intended.

A market saturation due to the minimum build req's could create a price war that see GT3 ultimately go down in price - after all, in BoP aren't all cars supposed to be capable of the same performance/lap time anyway - although you can't really BoP a wide drivability window.

I am hoping with all 3 Japanese big brands now involved in GT3, the war among themselves would create more cars - but that remains to be seen.

Funny thing is, the FIA GT commission is formed from the participating manufacturers themselves...

Maybe we see a push back and relaxation of numbers - but given Aston can carve out 24 vulcans, McLaren 75 Senna GT-R's and Bentley 300 GT3-R Conti's - I doubt that will happen.

MaskedRacer · 16 Apr 2018, 16:54 (Ref:3816034)

Trying to rank the different GT series on the planet right now from best to worst. I'll go with this:

1. IMSA GTLM/GTD
2. WEC GTE Pro/AM
3. Blancpain Endurance Series
4. Japan Super GT
5. ADAC GT Masters
6. VLN/N24
7. Blancpain GT Asia
8. Int' GT Open
9. Blancpain Sprint Series
10. Creventic 24H Series
11. Pirelli World Challenge

I'd rank IMSA GT slightly ahead of WEC right now. But lets see how GTD does in the non enduro rounds coming up. PWC is not looking healthy at all. Also the Blancpain Sprint Series has lost a lot of depth to the grid this year. Notice the series I find more interesting than Blancpain GT Sprint so far this year. Seriously GT Open and GT Asia was more interesting. The Zolder round was quite boring. Creventic grids are hurting this year too.

BSchneiderFan · 17 Apr 2018, 15:47 (Ref:3816211)

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Originally Posted by Accident

Yep, we probably need GT5 now for Alpine, Alfa 4C, BRZ, Miata, Ginetta G40.

I think we need a wholesale renumbering exercise before we go down that route!

Koenigsegg · 17 Apr 2018, 16:21 (Ref:3816217)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaskedRacer

Trying to rank the different GT series on the planet right now from best to worst. I'll go with this:

1. IMSA GTLM/GTD
2. WEC GTE Pro/AM
3. Blancpain Endurance Series
4. Japan Super GT
5. ADAC GT Masters
6. VLN/N24
7. Blancpain GT Asia
8. Int' GT Open
9. Blancpain Sprint Series
10. Creventic 24H Series
11. Pirelli World Challenge

I'd rank IMSA GT slightly ahead of WEC right now. But lets see how GTD does in the non enduro rounds coming up. PWC is not looking healthy at all. Also the Blancpain Sprint Series has lost a lot of depth to the grid this year. Notice the series I find more interesting than Blancpain GT Sprint so far this year. Seriously GT Open and GT Asia was more interesting. The Zolder round was quite boring. Creventic grids are hurting this year too.

No love for GT4 and British GT?

NSX_LeMans · 21 Apr 2018, 16:44 (Ref:3816810)

Walter Derani, father of Rafa and Pipo Derani, has passed away earlier this week while battling against cancer.
Walter was the cofounder of the GT3 Brasil championship with Antonio Hermann and SRO back in 2007.