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Old 8 Nov 2012, 14:20 (Ref:3164116)   #16
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Speak of the devil, last night's new to me 'Wheeler Dealers' featured a Mk2.

It's a really cool car. I would do some mild restoration work on it, enjoy the car, and wait for the right buyer to come across.
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Old 8 Nov 2012, 15:45 (Ref:3164138)   #17
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Similar situation.

Took an 1972 MGB GT to a local specialist and together we were unable to find where the supposed 5 figure restoration from a few years ago was....the costs to bring the car back to good condition will outweigh the cost of a car in tip-top condition. BUT, and it is a big but, we were left the car by my brother following his sad demise from cancer last year, so the emotional content here is far greater than the fiscal outlay.

Had it not been my dear brother's car then I doubt I would be having the car restored, but Joe never got to enjoy his car, and my wife really enjoys driving it, so Jo-Jo will return to the road - and hang the expense.
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Old 9 Nov 2012, 05:09 (Ref:3164375)   #18
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Unfortunately thats often the case.! The last Healey resto I did some years ago,full nut and bolt job,came out at 42k. The owner wanted the car 100% and was not disappointed. Bs are very easy to restore,but the costs are still higher than what the car will ever be worth.[Unless it happens to be a works car of course.]
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Old 9 Nov 2012, 07:15 (Ref:3164412)   #19
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I wonder if various tv programmes have given Joe punter a slanted view on what he can get for his money pre restoration?

I think I would bide my time. Even keep doing a few bits to the car (although I could understand you not wanting to spend a chunk more on it). Eventually the right buyer will come along with a sensible idea of its value.
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Old 13 Nov 2012, 16:55 (Ref:3165956)   #20
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What is the exact spec of the car, with regard to engine/transmission/wheel type/colour/year?

The thing with Mk 2 Jags is that, because they're not that uncommon, people will tend to wait for a car with the right spec combination. If you don't have that, then it can make them difficult to sell. That's not to say you won't sell it - just that they have to be priced accordingly if they're not the most desireable spec.
Sorry Paul, wasn't ignoring you, just been away on holiday for a few days. Anyway, to answer your question, its a 1961 3.8 in gunmetal grey with red interior. Has wire wheels in body colour. Gearbox is a later 4synchro with electric overdrive. So, as far as I can tell it's pretty much the "one to have". Chrome wires would probably be better, although the later gearbox is usually considered a desirable upgrade from the none-synchro Moss box. Oh and it's got a motolita wood rim Mk2 wheel instead of the original bakelite thing but it's a matter of taste which is better on that one.

Ok, decision made. I'm going to take off all the non-standard things that have been added over the years and replace with period standard parts. I'll sell what comes off and hopefully that will be fairly neutral financially. I'm then going to give it a good mechanical going over to replace worn bushes, get rid of oil leaks, check bearings, set up suspension, tune nicely etc. etc. Then I'm going to deal with the main elements of body corrosion and the roof dent, but without a full bare metal jobbie, then give it a basic spray job.

With all that done and back on the road again, I'll put it up for sale again, but drive it round and enjoy it until the right buyer comes along at the right price.
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Old 14 Nov 2012, 14:29 (Ref:3166289)   #21
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Cool! Try to post some pics of your progress.
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Old 14 Nov 2012, 15:59 (Ref:3166314)   #22
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Ok, no probs.... here we go for starters:

Pic 1 : The car as I bought it.
Pic 2 : As the engine bay was. Note: triple 2" SU carbs and Mk 10 manifold fitted, requiring the battery to be moved to the boot and lots of re-arrangement in the engine bay. Also many minor parts are not from a Mk2.
Pic 3 : The engine bay with most of the non standard parts removed.
Pic 4 : The "Coombs" racing style bonnet and rear wheel spats which will be sold. Replacement standard bonnet and "deep" wheel spats have already been bought. Notice in the background the spare wheel (left) with correct tyre size fitted next to the road wheel with wider lower profile tyre fitted. (Would have been interesting if I'd got a puncture!). The low profile tyres will be sold and correct new tyres bought for all round.
Pic 5 : Front end with brightwork removed. Only issue found here was a badly corroded near-side end of the front cross rail where the bumper mounts. This will be replaced. The fan shaped shadow on the radiator core is where a Kenlow was fitted. I've taken that off because it was completely superfluous. It never ran even sitting in traffic on a hot day. Probably because the rad is a recent replacement and the engine has been cleaned inside (I can tell because the antifreeze came out crystal clear!)
Pic 6 : The triple 2" SU set above (which will be sold), with the correct twin 1 3/4" SU and manifold set below awaiting restoration.
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Old 14 Nov 2012, 20:58 (Ref:3166415)   #23
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Hell, no wonder you aren't going to give it away... that's a beautiful car! Also, if there is a better looking engine than a Jag strait six, I don't know what it is.

Couple of questions:
- Is there a good resource to read up on these Coombs cars? I don't know anything about them.
- I may be a 'chav' but I really like the louvered hood. However, what I like more is the ones I have seen with the leather hood straps. What are those from and could you add them?
- Do you think the 2" carbs reduce the value among collectors? Is there not a significant performance gain?... In other words, why?

I wish I was close enough to help work on it. I really wish i had the means to buy it. Man, that sure would attract some attention riding through Atlanta.
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Old 14 Nov 2012, 21:34 (Ref:3166430)   #24
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Lovely Jag above....

To anyone who has paid a resto shop to tiddle up a vehicle...

Did you ask for and receive regular itemised accounts and detailed descriptions of what work was carried out?? (including cost of components, materials etc purchased) and is it considered reasonable to ask for and expect same???

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Old 14 Nov 2012, 22:03 (Ref:3166445)   #25
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- Is there a good resource to read up on these Coombs cars? I don't know anything about them.
Coombs were a Jaguar dealer who were into motorsport so offered a number of upgrades for customers looking to compete their car. Here's a link to the basic info. There is more about them in the rest of the site if you hunt about : http://www.jaguarmk2.info/what_is_a_coombs_.html

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- I may be a 'chav' but I really like the louvered hood. However, what I like more is the ones I have seen with the leather hood straps. What are those from and could you add them?
You may be thinking of the earlier Jaguar XK sports cars which usually sported bonnet straps when racing. Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:19...r_XK120_34.jpg


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- Do you think the 2" carbs reduce the value among collectors? Is there not a significant performance gain?... In other words, why?
The "triple" carb set were only used on the E-type or the later Mk 10 saloon (usually written Mk X) so anyone who knew what they were looking at would instantly know it was non-standard. Beauty is obviously in the eye of the beholder, so an "enhancement" for some is "buggered about with" to others. Generally though, originality will get the better price amongst collectors. Hence my comment about the gear box. Similarly with the size of the carbs, the smaller ones are correct for the car, and the correct air inlet duct and manifold will only fit the smaller carbs. Again, originality is usually the most desirable. As for performance, well.... all I can say is : Live axle + leaf springs + 2 tons means you really, really wouldn't want to try driving one of these quickly unless you were a very experienced, skilled and confident driver... and even then it's quite an "experience". So unless you're going to put it on a race track, then the twin smaller carbs is quite sufficient!
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Old 15 Nov 2012, 01:54 (Ref:3166498)   #26
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Thanks for the info! I look forward to seeing your progress! I'm jealous because I'd love to have a project or something to tinker on. My toys are modern and very expensive and difficult to work on. Probably not as rewarding either.

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You may be thinking of the earlier Jaguar XK sports cars which usually sported bonnet straps when racing. Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:19...r_XK120_34.jpg
That is stunning, but I have seen pictures of Mk2 with a strap on either side of the grille. Must not be that popular though because I can't find a photo now.

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The "triple" carb set were only used on the E-type or the later Mk 10 saloon (usually written Mk X) so anyone who knew what they were looking at would instantly know it was non-standard. Beauty is obviously in the eye of the beholder, so an "enhancement" for some is "buggered about with" to others. Generally though, originality will get the better price amongst collectors. Hence my comment about the gear box. Similarly with the size of the carbs, the smaller ones are correct for the car, and the correct air inlet duct and manifold will only fit the smaller carbs. Again, originality is usually the most desirable. As for performance, well.... all I can say is : Live axle + leaf springs + 2 tons means you really, really wouldn't want to try driving one of these quickly unless you were a very experienced, skilled and confident driver... and even then it's quite an "experience". So unless you're going to put it on a race track, then the twin smaller carbs is quite sufficient!
Make car... have... less power? Does not compute.
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Lovely Jag above....

To anyone who has paid a resto shop to tiddle up a vehicle...

Did you ask for and receive regular itemised accounts and detailed descriptions of what work was carried out?? (including cost of components, materials etc purchased) and is it considered reasonable to ask for and expect same???

Why should it not be reasonable? I was managing a leading resto shop for a number of years in the uk.All of our customers with long term restos were offered the choice of monthly payments etc.They all had itemised invoices accompanied with photographic records.One such customer was given a portrait of him standing next to his freshly restored 250 GTO.
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May one ask how much one would have to be spending to receive a free portrait on completion? I only ask because it reminded me of a programme I watched on Las Vegas Casinos where some customers were treated to free hotel suites and meals while they were there. When asked how much such a customer would have to "spend" in their casino to receive such things free gratis, the answer was... for a weekend: six figures for room and board, seven for a suite and your own chef!
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Why should it not be reasonable? I was managing a leading resto shop for a number of years in the uk.All of our customers with long term restos were offered the choice of monthly payments etc.They all had itemised invoices accompanied with photographic records.One such customer was given a portrait of him standing next to his freshly restored 250 GTO.
Thanks...for confirming what should be common business practice (but sometimes, its NOT! )
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We also received regular updates including photographs, itemised billing and optional alteration or improvements. It ended up costing far more than I hoped, but the cost was worth it, not least for the look on my wife's face when she got the B back.
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