2010 Formula BMW Europe - Page 3

dbar · 30 Jan 2010, 20:39 (Ref:2622462)

Official, but not news: Scuderia Coloni quits F. BMW Europe

http://www.automobilsport.com/race-c...urope,news.htm

**gomick** · 30 Jan 2010, 23:44 (Ref:2622539)

Do we expect Formula BMW to be around in future years now that BMW have left F1

bothfeetin · 31 Jan 2010, 06:16 (Ref:2622624)

Chaves in .....and with.....Ferrari Junior Team. Question - is it Ferrari the car maker or Antonio Ferrari's junior team ..and then...in what?

dragster · 31 Jan 2010, 11:52 (Ref:2622713)

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Originally Posted by bothfeetin

Not so sure about being a mistake or outright cheating...Muecke's engineering staff is pretty swift....to do this on "real" purpose, with all the data acquisition, FBMW reading it constantly and so on.... pretty stupid if on purpose!

Euro - oh for sure...the rabbit will come out of the hat soon...ha and believe me - it will be a blast - again!

RC/Auto... Enrico always liked to go to Europe but here again....they are also not the "explorer" type of people team..they like to have a "for sure to win" driver. In my view this is the wrong approach...FBMW is a driver development program were teams should find out within a season who is a real driver and who's only talking. To "hire" a top runner from previous years in that or other series, to supplement him/her with a lesser but well funded driver - what's the real reason then? Team Championship titles!

I am not right you say? Well, look at what drivers in the past FBMW selected as Junior drivers (and not only FBMW but also Petronas!) - many of them were good drivers - only a very few had real talent. So FBMW and Petronas are on the right track with this JUNIOR Program - sift and sort, give the driver a chance to prove him/herself.

24 cars - yes - a good field! Agreed! As there are 39 spots available - why are there only 24 taken? Holzer not there anymore; Daltec will not go; Mota...no drivers so far in all the official tests; tell's you one thing - that there are too many new series for too little driver money pool. Started all with this feud between FIA / F1 or Bernie vs Mosley - soooo stupid!
And not to be put on the sidelines....glory hail America now has to do the same mistakes - a what? Ladder system to Indy? With F2000, Mazda, Indy Lights to the all and biggest - Indycars! Having successfully destroyed FBMW Americas the work continuous to discourage drivers.
Why do I say that? Do you believe for one moment that all the teams will spend money on 3 cars each for every series to run in? Nope - most of them have a tough time to pay now their bills, forget the extra burden of buying new cars.
And where is ATLANTICS now? The best series we ever had in N. America, long time, on all kinds of tracks etc...

All this will come down to one thing - who has the biggest EGO of the 5 people running today's motorsport scene! AND that is sad to see!

Nice to be able to rant!

Mucke intentionally modified some part of the engine to gain advantage and BMW discovered it and FIA confirmed the penalty and DQ.....no smart engineering, but just cheating ......

I agreed on the damages to the junior series specially in USA.
For sure no Autotecnica in Formula BMW Europe 2010 and no Coloni.
Who drive for DAMS ?
Only JKR has announced the 3 drivers but no other....

dragster · 31 Jan 2010, 11:56 (Ref:2622718)

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Originally Posted by bothfeetin

Chaves in .....and with.....Ferrari Junior Team. Question - is it Ferrari the car maker or Antonio Ferrari's junior team ..and then...in what?

Italiaracing.net reported Chaves among the possible drivers of the Ferrari Drivers Academy, the Junior Drivers search of the F1 Team.
There are 8-9 drivers on the list.
No further info are available yet.

bothfeetin · 2 Feb 2010, 04:50 (Ref:2624185)

re Chaves .... heard is is also a protegee of no one else but our good old Peter Windsor and his yet to be running USF1 team....

I know Chaves is American....Colombian..but would it not be nice if he could be Italian? And USF1 ??? Well, still time as Chaves is young and has the time to be ready when USF1 is......like...when?

Go_For_Pole · 3 Feb 2010, 22:12 (Ref:2625971)

EuroInternational: Daniil Kvyat, Carlos Sainz Jr
Josef Kaufmann Racing: Robin Frijns, Petri Suvanto, Hannes van Asseldonk
Mücke Motorsport: Timmy Hansen, Alessio Picariello
DAMS: Javier Tarancon,
Fortec Motorsport: Jack Harvey, George Katsinis
Eifelland Racing: Facu Regalia, Come Ledogar, Marc Coleselli
Räikkönen Robertson Racing: Mackenzie Taylor, Eftihios Ellinas, Daniel Domit
U.S. Formula Project: Michel Lewis,
Motaworld Racing:

I wonder where Hansen, Lombard and Te Braak will end up.

Tom Emmen · 9 Feb 2010, 19:34 (Ref:2630109)

Old FBMW driver will race this year for Prema in the F3 Euro Series.

bothfeetin · 10 Feb 2010, 00:55 (Ref:2630317)

Good choice - always liked Prema - good team and good personnel - they know their stuff even if it looks as if they had a hard time lately.

dragster · 10 Feb 2010, 10:04 (Ref:2630497)

Who has an update for the teams-drivers line up ?

08u05 · 10 Feb 2010, 14:03 (Ref:2630626)

The two GP Shootout drivers may now be placed in British Formula Ford, so the RR lineup may well change.

dragster · 10 Feb 2010, 17:50 (Ref:2630756)

I will not be surprised...all deal was ???? since the beginning.
Where they find 600.000 euros for two free ride in FBMWEurope ?

bothfeetin · 11 Feb 2010, 08:48 (Ref:2631241)

Is their website not attended to or or I miss something here? Nothing re FF but all about FBMW and the "World Finals" - dead since 2009.....
Who is running this ....? Can everyone buy some shares in it?

THAT's NOT a good way in our fragile world of Junior open wheel sport, good intentions? Perhaps! Hope they can find a way to make it happen.

dragster · 14 Feb 2010, 19:58 (Ref:2633361)

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Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

EuroInternational: Daniil Kvyat, Carlos Sainz Jr
Josef Kaufmann Racing: Robin Frijns, Petri Suvanto, Hannes van Asseldonk
Mücke Motorsport: Timmy Hansen, Alessio Picariello
DAMS: Javier Tarancon,
Fortec Motorsport: Jack Harvey, George Katsinis
Eifelland Racing: Facu Regalia, Come Ledogar, Marc Coleselli
Räikkönen Robertson Racing: Mackenzie Taylor, Eftihios Ellinas, Daniel Domit
U.S. Formula Project: Michel Lewis,
Motaworld Racing:

I wonder where Hansen, Lombard and Te Braak will end up.

Any update for the drivers line up ?
Motaworld is shipping 3 cars to FBMW Pacific, so no FBMW Europe or both ? RR , Dams and U.S. Formula Project ? Why Eurointernational do not announce the third driver ? Look to quite for be three weeks away from the first official test....

Go_For_Pole · 15 Feb 2010, 18:21 (Ref:2633935)

Roy Nissany is Mucke's 2nd driver, I guess that having two rookies means their 3rd driver will be experienced so probably Hansen.

EuroInternational: Daniil Kvyat, Carlos Sainz Jr
Josef Kaufmann Racing: Robin Frijns, Petri Suvanto, Hannes van Asseldonk
Mücke Motorsport: Alessio Picariello, Roy Nissany
DAMS: Javier Tarancon,
Fortec Motorsport: Jack Harvey, George Katsinis
Eifelland Racing: Facu Regalia, Come Ledogar, Marc Coleselli
Räikkönen Robertson Racing: Mackenzie Taylor,
U.S. Formula Project: Michel Lewis,
Motaworld Racing:

dragster · 15 Feb 2010, 19:58 (Ref:2633972)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

Roy Nissany is Mucke's 2nd driver, I guess that having two rookies means their 3rd driver will be experienced so probably Hansen.

EuroInternational: Daniil Kvyat, Carlos Sainz Jr
Josef Kaufmann Racing: Robin Frijns, Petri Suvanto, Hannes van Asseldonk
Mücke Motorsport: Alessio Picariello, Roy Nissany
DAMS: Javier Tarancon,
Fortec Motorsport: Jack Harvey, George Katsinis
Eifelland Racing: Facu Regalia, Come Ledogar, Marc Coleselli
Räikkönen Robertson Racing: Mackenzie Taylor,
U.S. Formula Project: Michel Lewis,
Motaworld Racing:

Roy Nissany will be only testing this season and racing in the Formula Lista.

Go_For_Pole · 16 Feb 2010, 08:20 (Ref:2634224)

You are right of course, didn't read the article carefully

Who do you reckon will drive for Eurointernational?

dragster · 16 Feb 2010, 18:07 (Ref:2634503)

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Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

You are right of course, didn't read the article carefully

Who do you reckon will drive for Eurointernational?

Go_For_Pole I refer to italiaracing.net article.
May be Eurointernational will have only two drivers for 2010 for Red Bull ? or the third driver will be another Red Bull Junior driver ?
They have tested many drivers during the winter.

Go_For_Pole · 17 Feb 2010, 08:13 (Ref:2634834)

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Originally Posted by dragster

May be Eurointernational will have only two drivers for 2010 for Red Bull? or the third driver will be another Red Bull Junior driver?

But there shouldn't be anyone suitable. I mean Sainz and Kvyat apart, the other three are way higher in the single seater ladder.

dragster · 17 Feb 2010, 11:21 (Ref:2634908)

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Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

But there shouldn't be anyone suitable. I mean Sainz and Kvyat apart, the other three are way higher in the single seater ladder.

Not the RB drivers already selected but a new one ....but it is only speculation....not awing announced yet the third driver...

Tom Emmen · 23 Feb 2010, 16:55 (Ref:2639170)

Old Formula BMW driver Jazeman Jaafar has signed a contract to the British F3 with the Team Carlin Motorsport. Jazeman:" I'm glad I can race this season with Carlin. I know Trevor (Carlin, teamboss) a few years and with him racing in Formula 3 is a real dream. I also thank Petronas for the opportunity that the company gives me to continue to grow in motorsports.

Alex K · 24 Feb 2010, 02:19 (Ref:2639469)

Add Hansen and Bernacik to Muecke Motorsport confirmed drivers.

Go_For_Pole · 24 Feb 2010, 10:05 (Ref:2639588)

So to sum up, 16 drivers on the list for now:

EuroInternational: Daniil Kvyat, Carlos Sainz Jr
Josef Kaufmann Racing: Robin Frijns, Petri Suvanto, Hannes van Asseldonk
Mücke Motorsport: Timmy Hansen, Alessio Picariello, Maciej Bernacik
DAMS: Javier Tarancon,
Fortec Motorsport: Jack Harvey, George Katsinis
Eifelland Racing: Facu Regalia, Come Ledogar, Marc Coleselli
Räikkönen Robertson Racing: Mackenzie Taylor,
U.S. Formula Project: Michel Lewis,
Motaworld Racing:

bothfeetin · 26 Feb 2010, 01:45 (Ref:2640659)

So then....Motaworld is out of Euro FBMW!
Daltec - a Lista team is considering still - so I heard as they have an entry from last year's purchase of a team and they have all the cars (9) I believe.

Real funny is that the engineer from Atlantic, Lukas Streckergan had been last year in Monza with them and the rumour is that he changed to them for 2010. Does this mean Atlantic is going to Europe? Think this might be a too bigger task unless they really got that big sponsor. Heard nothing new as of now, anybody? They were suppose to officially announce the company - see different thread - Branson????

Seems the market for Euro 300,000 drivers is drying faster then expected with all the other series offering the same/better exposures. Hope not that this is a sign of an end of an era!

speedkills · 26 Feb 2010, 10:41 (Ref:2640828)

Euro 300,000 fees for racing FBMW is precisely why the series will fail sooner rather than later. The teams deserve what they get with the noose and greed they have created. They have no interest in Junior Drivers developing skills. They only care about how much they can scam out of young hopefulls.

Many other series in the world with more power etc for similar money. Drivers may as well experience real power for the same money.

Eventually there will be many series shut down due to no more drivers willing to get ripped off. FBMW especially is not a very expoesnive car to run and maintain yet the teams charge F3 sort of money that has 10 times more maintenance requirements.

FBMW is no longer relevent. Its just a scam for teams to keep getting paid for cars that need little maintenance yet they charge as if the cars were F3 cars

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