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Old 15 Sep 2006, 14:05 (Ref:1711033)   #1
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Alfa Romeo Tipo C

In the last two days I have been investigating the Tipo C, the Alfa Romeo answer to the German independently sprung Grand Prix cars. Built in 1935 and 1936, these came with eight and twelve cylinder engines. Reportedly only six were built. It was not quite as successful as the Tipo B, although Nuvolari scored some wins.
With Alfa Romeo's racing records destroyed, the history of these cars is sketchy. From what I discovered at least three 'survived', which is quite remarkable because in this unlimited displacement, but limited weight category, physical strength was not one of the cars' strong features.

Hopefully someone else can add more information.

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Old 15 Sep 2006, 14:09 (Ref:1711037)   #2
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8C 35 s/n 50013
Scuderia Ferrari (#65)
1936: Sold to author and race Paul Ruesch who campaigned it in England and South Africa
Winner 1936 Donnington Grand Prix (Dick Seaman / Ruesch)
1939: Sold to Robert Arbuthnot
1948: To Dennis Poore to buy off a loan
Painted green and raced by Poore. Poore also fitted a preselector gearbox
Stored for many years
1988: Sold by Christies in Monaco for $2.85 Million
Believed to be the only complete/original 8C 35 to survive
Repainted red, it is currently owned by Peter Giddings in the UK
(source: Road and Track Salon February 1990 by Doug Nye)

8C 35 s/n 50014
Scuderia Ferrari (#64)
Found in the early 1990s by Paul Grist in South America
Rebuilt and debuted in the hands of Matt Grist in 1996
Appeared in Classic and Sportscar March 1997
2001: Offered by Barrett Jackson in their January Scottsdale Auction
Now in the United States and frequently raced in the Ferrari Challenge

12C 36
Possibly Vanderbilt Cup winner with Tazio Nuvolari
Now in Museo Storico in Arese, Italy

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It was Swiss driver Hans Ruesch, not Paul Ruesch. (Possibly arising from confusion with Paul Pietsch).
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In 2003 an 8C 35 was in Vijay Mallya's collection.

http://www.tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips...on/page_01.htm

Could it be this is "50014"? ex-Paul Grist - which was bought by Lawrence Auriana at Christies Pebble Beach in 1998?

Some additional history of 50014 being:
Pablo Pessatti 1947-1948 (with a 308 body),
heavily crashed at B'Aires 1948, March 20 (driver killed).
Sold to Alberto "Nino" Crespi 1949, and fitted with a 6C-2500 engine.
To Hector Nimitz.
To Lucio Bollaert without any engine.
1986 sold to the UK.

Some were converted into 12C 36s and then modified again into 308s.

There are some 308s around:

one (50017) in the Fangio museum - history being:
1938 Signor Bellini Caviglia in Montvideo, customs problems meant the car remained at the port until Dr. Italo de Luca bought it and sent the car to Buenos Aires to be raced between 1939 & 42 by Ricardo Nasi, Ricardo Carú, José Canziani
1946, the car was bought by Oscar Alfredo Galvez, Julio Rosso and Ernesto Petrini.
Later they sold the car to the ACA -Automovil Club Argentino- who gave it to Juan M. Fangio

one in the Indy museum - not found any details about this one.

Julian Majzub has one - history being:
raced in Brazil 1938 by Tadini ???
Chico Landi shared it with Casini late 1948 before selling it to him.
1949 loaned to Antonio Fernandez who crashed it heavily (he lost a leg in the incident).
Around 1956 Casini turned it into a road car, fitting a Cadillac engine
via Colin Crabbe in the '1970s to Majzub.

And a C type chassis was used by Alfa to rebuild the 12C36 they have on display at Arese (50012), this was an ex-indycar and doesn't have exactly the right engine.

With the Peter Giddings car (ex-Mayman, Poore, 50013) that could possibly account for all of the 8C35s, but probably doesn't!!

Such as:

Peter Giddings has a 2nd 8C35 - based on frame number 8 (the Grist car has frame no. 1 and the ex-Poore car has frame no. 5), has the engine from 50012 and he says this could be the original chassis from 50014.
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One is for sale at Cave creek Classics:

1935 Alfa-Romeo Typo C 8C-35 3800
Engine # 500014 Chassis# 4
The Alfa-Romeo TypoC 8C-35 was built in 1935 by Alfa-Romeo as a succesor to the P-3 and was used by Scuderia Ferrari for there teams. Powered by the new 3.8 litre twin cam straight eight engine, it was fitted with twin rootes-type superchargers.

This car has a complete and documented history. Much research and expert authentication has been done in the past 6 months. There was speculation in the marketplace about this car and how it related to the others that exist. This car has a very complete and documented history.

Price: $2,900,000.00
Year: 1935
Make: Alfa-Romeo
Model: Typo C 8C-35 3800
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Would that be this one: http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/2...meo-8C-35.html
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