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Old 27 Dec 2016, 16:08 (Ref:3698677)   #136
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They both look really sharp. I also like that they both have a distinctive livery but it's obvious they're on the same team.

Has Toyota released their official liveries yet?
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Old 27 Dec 2016, 20:00 (Ref:3698718)   #137
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Old 27 Dec 2016, 21:03 (Ref:3698728)   #138
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M-Sport just posted a video of what livery Ogier will have at least. I think the car looks quite good in that livery.

https://www.facebook.com/MSportLtd/v...c_ref=NEWSFEED
No obvious backing from Ford... where does the M-Sport budget actually come from?
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Old 27 Dec 2016, 21:33 (Ref:3698732)   #139
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No obvious backing from Ford... where does the M-Sport budget actually come from?
They do have some sponsors but I think they make most money from building and selling rally cars. R2, R5, cars for national and regional rallying, some rallycross cars, old WRC cars etc. They have also been involved in developing cars for limited production, for example the M-Sport vans from Ford.
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They do have some sponsors but I think they make most money from building and selling rally cars. R2, R5, cars for national and regional rallying, some rallycross cars, old WRC cars etc. They have also been involved in developing cars for limited production, for example the M-Sport vans from Ford.
They're very much self funded - the sales of the various specs of Fiesta funds the WRC team - and the WRC team operates as an advert for the various specs of Fiesta. If you look at how many Fiestas are out there competing at all levels there is a surprisingly large number of them.
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Old 28 Dec 2016, 13:15 (Ref:3698815)   #141
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Thanks. Doesn't quite have the impact of the Fords, but impressive to see Microsoft backing.

Is there any indication of pace from anyone in terms of the early testing, or will rally Monte Carlo be the first indication of who's got it, and who got it wrong?
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Is there any indication of pace from anyone in terms of the early testing, or will rally Monte Carlo be the first indication of who's got it, and who got it wrong?
Ogier tested both the Fiesta and the Yaris and he thought the Yaris lacked engine power. He was impressed by the Fiesta though. That is the only comparison I have read about.

Latvala believed the Toyota could be fighting for wins from Argentina and onwards.
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No obvious backing from Ford... where does the M-Sport budget actually come from?
There's Ford Ecobost logos in the front windshield and rear door.

The Castrol logos are miniscule.
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The Monte Carlo Rally is this weekend.
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Old 16 Jan 2017, 19:00 (Ref:3702998)   #145
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Looking forward to it. Brand new cars with some changes driver wise and a new manufacture.

A shame Toyota and Citroen only has two cars ready at the moment.
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These new faster, improved cars are going to save the WRC; it will be the 'must watch' motorsport series this year....

Okay, maybe not; but that's the feeling I get from reading/ listening to the WRC insiders/ diehard fans.

I hope I'm wrong - but I think it will take more than new cars to put the WRC on an upward trajectory; and increase the fanbase.


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Hard to say for sure until the first car hits the stage but, in theory at least, I think this WRC season has more promise than any in at least a decade.
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Looking forward to this - it'll be interesting to see the pecking order with the new cars and drivers swapping teams. Hopefully it's close and we don't see one team with a huge advantage over everyone else (I was worried that VW would run away with it but obviously that's not going to happen now).
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I still think as in most motorsport, you might find one team or car has an advantage.

I would imagine it will be Ogier and Ford as they have the best driver and a package that has been close and getting closer in recent months, just lacking that star driver
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