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Old 6 Mar 2006, 10:02 (Ref:1537195)   #1
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The problem with threads as long as this and the Chevron B29 one is I , and possibly others forget exactly where we are , a case in point being a BT29 I have been advised of landing in N.Z. recently , BT29-41 to be prescise , without trolling all the way back I am unable to remember if we know about this car. Bryan.
Bryan, if there is any way you can suggest we can split these long threads to make it easier for you guys to refer to, let us know. I'm certainly happy to set up a specific thread for example on an individual chassis number if there are enough posts on it. You just name it and I'll try to split the relevant posts out.
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Old 6 Mar 2006, 10:18 (Ref:1537207)   #2
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Hi John

Thanks for the offer. The difficulty will be where some individual posts make reference to two subjects. Could they be duplicated if necessary?

For example, we might be able to work out a separate thread on BT30s need to contain posts 1-13 plus 15-18 etc but a separate BT35 thread would need posts 11-15 plus 17-18 etc. If that sort of split would be possible, I'd volunteer to spend some time going through the posts trying to figure it out.

The alternative would to create a new BT30 thread and a new BT35 thread (etc) with fresh posts that sum up where we got to with this thread. The latter is probably no more work but would give us a better foundation for taking the research forward.

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Old 6 Mar 2006, 10:28 (Ref:1537216)   #3
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Kind of scary when you actually look through this thread. Some of the digressions would need their own threads too: e.g. the Moser BT30/BT36 story.

There's some really valuable stuff in here if we can only get at it.

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Old 6 Mar 2006, 10:38 (Ref:1537223)   #4
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Right, you give me a list of the threads you require, and if you can, also identify the posts (long job, I know!), then I'll split them out. Where a post is relevant to more than one thread, it may be that we will simply have to copy that post across from one thread to the other.
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Old 6 Mar 2006, 11:09 (Ref:1537240)   #5
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Thanks for offering to do this. Greatly appreciated.

Is there a way to get the whole thread onto a single page? I don't seem to be able to get more that 40 posts at a time. I'd be skipping up and down so much this would be quite a pain.

Bryan, Andrew, David, Chris, Ted et al. Are you happy for this thread to be chopped up like this?

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Old 6 Mar 2006, 11:55 (Ref:1537271)   #6
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Bryan, Andrew, David, Chris, Ted et al. Are you happy for this thread to be chopped up like this?
More than happy
Especially if some postings can appear in more than one thread
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Old 6 Mar 2006, 15:25 (Ref:1537345)   #7
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Especially if some postings can appear in more than one thread
I just worked through the first 100 posts to see how hard this would be and there are a lot of posts that would need to be split or duplicated. Originally I was thinking about just quoting a post - e.g. allocating a post in a new BT35 thread but quoting it in a new BT30 thread as well - but as I went through there seemed more where a split would make more sense.

So far, the threads would be: BT30s (34 posts), BT35s (39 posts), BT36s (44 posts), BT28s (7 posts) and "the Render Brabhams" (8 posts). The fact that those add up to 132 instead of 100 shows the amount of duplication.

I'll keep going to see if it starts to make more sense.

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Old 6 Mar 2006, 15:29 (Ref:1537347)   #8
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It would make my life much easier if we dealt with volume producers
like Brabham, March Lola and Chevron in specific model threads

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like Brabham, March Lola and Chevron in specific model threads

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Old 6 Mar 2006, 19:37 (Ref:1537525)   #10
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Is there a way to get the whole thread onto a single page? I don't seem to be able to get more that 40 posts at a time. I'd be skipping up and down so much this would be quite a pain. Allen
Allen, no I don't think there is a way of getting more posts on a single page. I can when splitting the threads, but I still have to scroll down, and I only see the first line of each post which doesn't always help.

I've split this off so that guests and other posters don't get fed up with us discussing the process rather than see info about the chassis. I'm also sticking this up until we have agreed and completed the task. I think there are too many of you interested in this to take this discussion off line by PMs.
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So far, the threads would be: BT30s (34 posts), BT35s (39 posts), BT36s (44 posts), BT28s (7 posts) and "the Render Brabhams" (8 posts). The fact that those add up to 132 instead of 100 shows the amount of duplication. Allen
Plenty of work here but I don't mind splitting these off. My main concern is the number of duplicates that you refer to, identifying them easily and then trying to slot them in chronologically. However, I do think this is all worthwhile. I just think that we need to take a bit of care and it might take a while to get all the threads up the way you want.
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Hi John

You're not kidding about it being a lot of work. Tedious, unexciting work too!

I've got as far as post 445 so I'm well on my way. The problem has turned out to be those posts that list, for example, every Brabham in sprints or in hillclimbs as these need to appear in several of the new threads. One of those was my fault!

I think we'll have threads for: BT21/21B/21C/21X, BT23/23B/23C, BT28, BT29/29X, BT30/30X, BT35/35X, BT36, BT38/38C and BT40; and then separate threads for the David Render Brabhams and the Silvio Moser Brabham and finally one for "Unidentified Brabhams".

I'll type up all my scribbles tomorrow and pass them to you. The we can debate how best to make the changes.

I am very grateful for your willingness to do this John. I'm sure you know how many hours work you're letting yourself in for.

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Old 6 Mar 2006, 20:49 (Ref:1537572)   #13
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Seriously though, I want to get it right, so we'll get one up and running; probably the BT30 thread because that is where Bryan started it (actually it's all Bryan's fault because he went berserk and kept adding new model types! ), check that we are all happy with it, and then move on to the next one. One step at a time eh?
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Old 6 Mar 2006, 20:53 (Ref:1537578)   #14
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John,

Many thanks for agreeing to do this and whatever you chaps decide will be O.K. by me, I would offer to assist but I haven't even figured out how to post smilies yet.

Regards Bryan.
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And don't forget the BT9 [I think] that became the Alan Minshaw Blackjack FF1600. I'd still like to locate that one
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