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Old 6 Mar 2006, 22:15 (Ref:1537592)   #16
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To be fair Bryan wanted to put the 23s into a new tread and I jumped the gun, on reflection of course a thread for each as Allen is doing is the ultimate. With luck I will have some small updates on 30s.
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Old 6 Mar 2006, 23:37 (Ref:1537635)   #17
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O.K. it's all my fault , I can take it , I have broad shoulders .

The biggest nightmare will be the beloved Chevron B29 thread , that one goes everywhere and then some.

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Old 7 Mar 2006, 07:33 (Ref:1537758)   #18
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Well, Bryan, I'm happy to help turn all these threads into properly structured archive material in order that 10-Tenths becomes a leading source for historians and researchers!

I also think that I have worked out a way of avoiding the cutting and pasting of individual posts which have to go into more than one thread, by copying the whole thread to a 'Holding' area for me to work on without moving the original thread.
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Old 7 Mar 2006, 22:35 (Ref:1539854)   #19
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I'm just sending the breakdown to John. You may be able to hear the shriek all the way from Spaulding...

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Old 7 Mar 2006, 23:38 (Ref:1539908)   #20
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Or Spalding, even! I'll start tomorrow; I propose to title each one in a standard way - 'Brabham BT?? - Chassis History', if that's OK?
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Old 7 Mar 2006, 23:50 (Ref:1539917)   #21
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Old 8 Mar 2006, 16:30 (Ref:1540527)   #22
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Finally, after about 8 hours work, I've posted the first BT (30) thread. This proved far more difficult than at first envisaged as the split thread mode does not show the post numbers, so I had to print the pages off (64 of them!) and number them up manually and then check them against the thread.

Allen, I have 'pruned' the posts a bit more than you suggested, in an attempt to:-

1) Keep the thread as close to purely BT30 specific as possible, without however, hopefully damaging the continuity.
2) Eradicate references to posts and comments that are no longer on this thread

Note also that:-

1) I added posts 140-144, 161, 163-169, from the original thread, which didn't appear on your list, Allen
2) That if any of you want me to change, add or remove any of the posts, you must give me the numbers from the NEW thread, as obviously, with the exception of posts 1-13, they will now differ from the originator thread.
2) That if I have 'pruned' too much and you are unhappy that the relationship to the BT35/36s is lost, I can do this again (The really hard work has already been done!), but we can always post links if absolutely necessary.
3) None of your posts have been lost - the bits I have edited out will reappear in the appropriate other BT threads.
4) I have received emails from a few of you and will take on board your comments as I prepare the appropriate threads. If I haven't done as you asked or requested, it will be because I have a query which I will get back to you on.

If any of you can let me know what you think, before I carry on with the others, I'd appreciate it. You can post it here, unless you want to be too rude ( ). If you are happy with the outcome, I'll get on with the BT35 thread tomorrow, and that will be the two most difficult (sizewise, anyway!) threads out the way.

I'm going for a lie down, now!
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Old 8 Mar 2006, 17:05 (Ref:1540557)   #23
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You're a hero John. The new thread is much more manageable at only two-and-a-half pages and should enable the experts to sum up with a "where are we now" post. Bryan or Andrew are strongest on this subject, I'd guess.

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1) I added posts 140-144, 161, 163-169, from the original thread, which didn't appear on your list, Allen
The reason for that is that I'd suggested putting the entire conversation about the two Moser cars (posts 140-170) into a separate thread because all 31 posts were relevant to his BT30 and were also relevant to his BT36. If people think it's better split between the BT30 and BT36 threads, I won't argue.

I estimate the BT35 thread at 123 posts and the BT36 thread at 133 posts plus whatever it gets out of the planned Moser thread. After that it's plain sailing

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Old 8 Mar 2006, 17:25 (Ref:1540577)   #24
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Chevron B29 thread - do we break it up?

Rather than having this debate on the Chevron B29 thread itself, I thought it had suffered enough.

I had a quick browse through the thread and although it's a little shorter than the Brabham thread, it ranges over many, many subjects. Should we try to break it up like the Brabham thread or do we take a more pragmatic approach and just try to prune some of the more distinct subjects out of it, for example the Modus or GRD content?

Do we see how much value we get from the Brabham thread breakdown first?

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Old 8 Mar 2006, 17:50 (Ref:1540606)   #25
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The reason for that is that I'd suggested putting the entire conversation about the two Moser cars (posts 140-170) into a separate thread because all 31 posts were relevant to his BT30 and were also relevant to his BT36. If people think it's better split between the BT30 and BT36 threads, I won't argue.

I estimate the BT35 thread at 123 posts and the BT36 thread at 133 posts plus whatever it gets out of the planned Moser thread. After that it's plain sailing Allen
Sorry, Allen, as I was scrolling down the list, I kept seeing posts about a BT30 which I thought you had overlooked. Comes of concentrating on one chassis type, I guess.

Yes, I'd overlooked the number of BT36 posts. Never mind, we'll get there! Might take a few days, to get it all sorted though!
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Old 8 Mar 2006, 20:07 (Ref:1540697)   #26
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Personally I think that the B29 bits and bobs should be in one thread. Then someone needs to look at what is left and decide if it needs further splitting.

I make these comments in the full and certain knowledge that as I am not a moderator it will not be me! I have great admiration for John for taking on the Brabham Thread. Give the bloke a week or three to recover before driving him into the dark recesses of the Chevron B29 thread!

There be dragons!
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Old 8 Mar 2006, 20:21 (Ref:1540704)   #27
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Ah, appreciated, at last! Thanks, Steve. I'm happy to break any of these threads down if it makes them more suitable and accessible as archived research material, but as you say it needs to be done properly over a reasonable period of time for me to retain my sanity .... oh, wait, that departed years ago!
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Old 8 Mar 2006, 22:25 (Ref:1540780)   #28
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Massive job , thank you very much , I will start making notes and do an update on the BT30's when the thread is unlocked.

Thanks again , also Allen.

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Old 8 Mar 2006, 23:21 (Ref:1540817)   #29
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I'll unlock it shortly if everyone is happy with it as it is, and I've added one post that has been requested.
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Old 9 Mar 2006, 01:09 (Ref:1540853)   #30
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John/Allen/ Steve, et al .

The B29 thread would be nightmare , the first person that stuffed it up was ME [ sorry about that ] by posting March stuff , then Chris T. got carried away and was joined by David Mc . in very short order.
It only lasted about 4 posts before it degenerated with Modus/ March other Chevron types etc , if definate specific items can be found a home , maybe hive them off , but at this point we really have March stuff scattered far and wide and nowhere to place them . The Modus stuff would be O.K. as we have a long lost thread for them.

However to give John time to return to saner levels , lets see how the Brabham split up goes in the next few weeks.

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