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Old 18 Apr 2007, 09:03 (Ref:1894522)   #1
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ALD

I own the ALD (Automobile Louis Descartes) BMW C2 1989 Chassis #06, the sixth and last alluminium chassis built by ALD.



Summarizing, the chassis #06 (3.5 L6 BMW) built on 1989, raced:
1989: World Championship 480 km of Dijon: Gerard Tremblay/Didier Bonnet: did not qualify
World Championship 480 km of SPA: Francois Wettling / Thierry Lecerf: 22th place
24 Hours of Le Mans: Didier Bonnet/Jan Luc Colin (race number 179): did not qualify
1994: 24 Hours of Le Mans: Sylvain Boulay/Bernard Robin/Dominique Lacaud (race number 7): retired after 96 laps (engine).



Then, as historic car, on 2005: Monza Coppa Intereuropa: Group C/GT Racing race: Carlo Del Conte: Race 1: retired; Race 2: 8th place (first in C2 class)
Le Mans LM Story: WSM Race: Carlo Del Conte: Race 1: did not start; Race 2: 6th place.

I believe that my car is the only survived ALD still running. I know that in France there is one of the two carbon chassis, without engine, in a tyre shop, but I don't have any other infos about other ALD.

I have the photos of all other ALD Cars built ... I know that many of them were destroyed ... someone has infos about surviving chassis?

I would be interested in write down the history of this little enthusisat French driver and contructor (Louis Descartes) and his cars ...

Thank you for you help!
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Old 18 Apr 2007, 09:14 (Ref:1894531)   #2
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I have the photos of all other ALD Cars built ... I know that many of them were destroyed
Are we are certain that 6 were built? Can you list the chassis nos of those destroyed? Do you know their previous history? We can then focus on those unaccounted for.
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Old 18 Apr 2007, 09:25 (Ref:1894544)   #3
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Yes, I'm quite sure that 6 aluminium chassis plus 2 (or 3?) carbon chassis were built.

I met in Le Mans some mens who worked at the Descartes factory, they recognised my car, gave me the photos of all the ALD cars built and some other infos.

I met also the wife of Mr. Louis Descartes!


It was nice to see how much they were still enthusiast!

I hope to meet again at LM Story 2007 and I will try to collect other information about ALD and also about surviving/destroyed chassis.

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Old 19 Apr 2007, 15:30 (Ref:1895568)   #4
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This is the list of the ALD Chassis Numbers from Classic car.com:


01 BMW 1985 C2 Louis Descartes
02 (C2/02) BMW 1986 C2 Louis Descartes
03 (C2/03) BMW (Audi) 1987 C2 Louis Descartes Experiment with Audi Turbo
04 BMW 1988 C2 Louis Descartes
05 BMW 1989 C2 Didier Bonnet
06 BMW 1989 C2 Didier Bonnet (This is my car)
C289-01 DFL 3.3 C2 1989 (Carbon chassis) Louis Descartes - sold (1991) For 1990 season moved into C1a and fitted with DFZ 3.5. Sometimes called C190.
C91-? Ford C1a 1991 (Carbon chassis) Louis Descartes
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Old 23 Apr 2007, 11:51 (Ref:1898468)   #5
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Just to add some information about ALD; you will find here un extract of
http://www.lemans.org/24heuresdumans...orique_fr.html
with ALD entries in the 24hours of Le Mans.

Year Cars Number Team Drivers

1985 ALD 1 N93 Automobiles Louis De... Descartes , Hubert...

1986 ALD 2 N92 Louis Descartes Heuclin , Descartes...

1987 ALD 3 N177 Louis Descartes Lacaud , Heuclin...

1987 ALD 2 N178 Louis Descartes Tremblay , Boulay...

1988 ALD 4 N177 Automobiles Louis De... Descartes , Heuclin...

1988 ALD 3 N178 Automobiles Louis De... Lateste , Tremblay...

1989 ALD 4 N176 Louis Descartes Serfaty , Boulay...

1989 ALD C 289 N177 Louis Descartes Descartes , Serpaggi...

1989 ALD 5 N178 Didier Bonnet Bonnet , Tremblay...

1989 ALD 6 N179 Didier Bonnet Bey Rozet , Cardon...

1990 ALD C 289 N106 Louis Descartes Migault , Tremblay...

1991 ALD C 91 N7 Louis Descartes Taverna , Gonin...

1992 ALD C 290 N60 Marc Pachot Touroul , Pachot... (this one was with a PRV engines but DNQ)

1994 ALD C 289 N7 Stealth Engineering ... Lacaud , Boulay...
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Old 23 Apr 2007, 18:57 (Ref:1898796)   #6
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Thank you amicalemans!

My car is the chassis #6 (the one with race n. 179 on 1989 (with and n. 7 on 1994).

I could make a scan of the photos of the various cars at every race in LM and publish on the post ....

Anybody has infos about the surviving cars today?
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Old 24 Apr 2007, 05:46 (Ref:1899052)   #7
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From who did you buy it ?

Do you have picture for this one ? The engine was a PRV Peugeot from the 605. (Raymond Touroul passed away last year). The car was DNQ. i remember a red car..
1992 ALD C 290 N60 Marc Pachot Touroul , Pachot... (this one was with a PRV engines but DNQ)

The only one driver who is still coming at Le Mans is Sylvain Boulay. I will ask him in june if he know something about other cars


In addition, 2 links in french :

http://www.sportscaruniverse.com/Spo...ldC289ford.htm

http://www.sportscaruniverse.com/Spo...nuGroupeC1.htm

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Hi,

yes, I think to have a photo of the ALD with Peugeot Engine. Now I'm going to Hockeneheim, but next week I will have time to scan and post some photos.

I met Silvain Boulay at LM Story 2003, I hope to meet again at LM Story 2007!

Thank you for the links; my ALD is also known as ALD BMW 94 because of his last race at LM 1994.

I hope to see you at LM Story!

Kind regards.

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Old 17 May 2007, 08:47 (Ref:1915183)   #9
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Dear Amicalemans,
I bought my ALD 06 from Mr. Tony Dunderdale (UK)



This is the ALD Peugeot from LM 1992.

I believe that it was the first carbon chassis C289 (originally in blue) updated for the 1992 race.

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Old 17 May 2007, 09:19 (Ref:1915210)   #10
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thanks for thr pic :
people on the pic are : 2 mechanics, Marc Pachot, Philippe Couesnon (Espace Racing) and Raymond Touroul.
Difficult to know which chassis it was...
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Old 17 May 2007, 09:44 (Ref:1915226)   #11
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i think you know Dominique Lacaud ...
http://www.therrteam.com/dominique/dominique_cv.htm

May we know which chassis are destroyed ?
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Can I just say I have a soft spot for these cars? I always liked the "tilting at windmills" efforts in C2 of teams like Ceekar or Alba, and there's a cheeky charisma about the cars themselves. Good to see that one at least is still out there.

I seem to remember there were chaps called Colin and Cardon involved with no. 179 au Mans (was it red and sponsorless that year?) but they DNQd - IIRC Descartes had 4 entries but only one qualified. I am around 190 miles away from my yearbooks, but I don't remember either driver ever doing anything else. Makes me slightly sad - a dream ruined...
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He drove my car at Le Mans 1994!

Just to complete the infos on my Car (Chassis 06):

Ownership track:

1989:
ALD (--> Didier Bonnet LM 1989)
At the end of the season (December 1989): ALD---> Mr. Desnoes
1994:
Mr. Desnoes ---> S. Boulay (for the Race LM 1994), after the race
S. Boulay ---> Desnoes
2001:
Desnoes ---> Richard Butler (UK)
2002
Richard Butler ----> Sherwood Restoration
Sherwood Restoration ----> Tony Dunderdale
2003
Tony Dunderdale ----> Carlo Del Conte (I) (current owner)
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Can I just say I have a soft spot for these cars? I always liked the "tilting at windmills" efforts in C2 of teams like Ceekar or Alba, and there's a cheeky charisma about the cars themselves. Good to see that one at least is still out there.

I seem to remember there were chaps called Colin and Cardon involved with no. 179 au Mans (was it red and sponsorless that year?) but they DNQd - IIRC Descartes had 4 entries but only one qualified. I am around 190 miles away from my yearbooks, but I don't remember either driver ever doing anything else. Makes me slightly sad - a dream ruined...
Ensign, the n. 179 at Le Mans 1989 was my car (chassis 06 in the "Liqui Moly" colours) driven by Jan Luc Colin / Francois Cardon:

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Great stuff! That's the best pic I've ever seen of it.
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