Has someone been fudging?

spectator22 · 20 Dec 2006, 03:25 (Ref:1795373)

Intriguing story in MN today. TEGA is tidying up its rules for 2007 because of a loophole which might have allowed someone to run a clutch or freewheel device in there rear hubs, to overcome the handling problems a fixed diff gives. The diff thing is a freewheeling device like in 4WDs. TEGA tech guy admits theyre changing the rules for 2007 (currently only refers to the final drive, not whole rear axle) but says hes fairly confident noone has run anything this year. MN suggests there is a lot of disqueit among some teams about it. No teams are named. How about that - anyone have any info?????

Raglanparade · 20 Dec 2006, 08:07 (Ref:1795476)

Well which teams have been coming off the corners more nicely then the other ones...

I think that it is pretty obvious which 'squad' has been doing it.

lowdown · 20 Dec 2006, 09:10 (Ref:1795527)

Imagine how much faster one of those cars would have been at PI if it didn't have fuel pick up problems. Poor child.

The Hrt Kid · 20 Dec 2006, 09:29 (Ref:1795545)

or you could look at it like this. which team has come from no where last year to be constant front runners, with 1 of their drivers finishing in the top 3 of the championship? seriously there is no proof of whom was doing it and it wasnt actually cheating, it was a loophole around the rules.

Raglanparade · 20 Dec 2006, 09:35 (Ref:1795552)

Well the 888 car is no slouch either.

Maybe a number of the top teams were running it.

peckstar · 20 Dec 2006, 09:37 (Ref:1795555)

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Originally Posted by The Hrt Kid

or you could look at it like this. which team has come from no where last year to be constant front runners, with 1 of their drivers finishing in the top 3 of the championship? seriously there is no proof of whom was doing it and it wasnt actually cheating, it was a loophole around the rules.

well that would be toll wouldnt, they were crap last year and suddenly they end last year as frontrunners and got a podium in just about every round this year

zac510 · 20 Dec 2006, 09:59 (Ref:1795579)

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Originally Posted by Raglanparade

Well which teams have been coming off the corners more nicely then the other ones...

I think that it is pretty obvious which 'squad' has been doing it.

A device like this would probably assist corner entry and mid-corner speed but not necessarily corner exit speed. So it's not very obvious to me

SSbaby · 20 Dec 2006, 10:41 (Ref:1795605)

SBR must have been running em last year as they went backwards this year.

hoffy · 20 Dec 2006, 23:12 (Ref:1796271)

But, regardless of who was or wasn't running this, would it really be cheating?

SSbaby · 20 Dec 2006, 23:19 (Ref:1796278)

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Originally Posted by hoffy

But, regardless of who was or wasn't running this, would it really be cheating?

It wouldn't be cheating as the rule was open to interpretation (i.e. "closing a loophole"...).

barney551 · 20 Dec 2006, 23:23 (Ref:1796282)

Not cheating ... just bending the rules to their limit.

Only the rich .. and/or smart teams could afford to do it.

Now with the transparency rulings this will again level out the playing field, even if the practice was allowed to continue it would need to be declared or risk losing out big time.

lowdown · 20 Dec 2006, 23:40 (Ref:1796292)

You just have to ask yourself, who is the master at bending the rules? So any questionable bending of the rules he is the first to come to mind because that is what he does and shows no remorse for doing so. Whether it's him or not he's a grub and takes this sport to rock bottom.

Just Do It! · 21 Dec 2006, 00:12 (Ref:1796308)

Is today the day of the riddle or what??

**Woolley** · 21 Dec 2006, 00:42 (Ref:1796322)

It's a huge leap of logic from someone closing a loophole in the rule book to naming the team that's allegedly been cheating. As far as I can see there's not the merest hint of a suggestion that anyone's even considered exploiting the loophole, and if they had, it's not cheating anyway, because it's a loophole...

Let's keep just a bit of a sense of perspective here before naming names!

johnh875 · 21 Dec 2006, 00:42 (Ref:1796323)

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Originally Posted by zac510

A device like this would probably assist corner entry and mid-corner speed but not necessarily corner exit speed. So it's not very obvious to me

Agreed

hoffy · 21 Dec 2006, 01:09 (Ref:1796333)

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Originally Posted by Woolley

It's a huge leap of logic from someone closing a loophole in the rule book to naming the team that's allegedly been cheating. As far as I can see there's not the merest hint of a suggestion that anyone's even considered exploiting the loophole, and if they had, it's not cheating anyway, because it's a loophole...

Let's keep just a bit of a sense of perspective here before naming names!

Thats my point exactly. If there was one team doing this or 25 teams doing this under the 2006 interpretation, they were all legit.

Step away....nothing to see here

lookleft · 21 Dec 2006, 01:48 (Ref:1796355)

The interesting thing is that they choose not to update the rules when they became aware of the issue (Gold Coast) but waited until the season was over. If the potential to break the intent of the regulation was known why not just update it immediately?

To say that random top 10 checks did not identify any issues is a bit weak.

davester · 21 Dec 2006, 02:21 (Ref:1796379)

CHEATING does not require changing of the rulebook, just enforcement of the existing rules.

RULE CHANGES in this case close down on "a rule interpretation by some team/s" that the rule makers were not entirely happy with.

Fans...back to your lives.
Teams...back to your rulebooks for some more li'l gems waiting to be unlocked.

v8smoker · 22 Dec 2006, 01:13 (Ref:1797283)

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Originally Posted by zac510

A device like this would probably assist corner entry and mid-corner speed but not necessarily corner exit speed. So it's not very obvious to me

Ifs its helping entry n mid it is going to make for a faster exit speed

Thats why its not obvious to you

cavvy · 22 Dec 2006, 22:58 (Ref:1797996)

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Originally Posted by lowdown

You just have to ask yourself, who is the master at bending the rules? So any questionable bending of the rules he is the first to come to mind because that is what he does and shows no remorse for doing so. Whether it's him or not he's a grub and takes this sport to rock bottom.

Are you envious of success generally or is third in a two horse race more your go???