Hispania and Dallara definately parting company

[duke_toaster]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/feedarticle/9096881
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83874

Am I the only person that thinks we won't see them next year? It's not as if they have the expertise of facilities to develop their own car, either new parts for this year or a 2011 car.

[ECW Dan Selby]

Geoff Willis is the key man here. Just as important is Mr E.

If those commit, they should be ok.

Selby

[jab]

They're supposed to have their funds sorted out and there are plenty of companies out there who can build cars, even if their own new facilities aren't up and running by then. They should be OK

[Grandpa_Rob]

Everything seems to be so seat of your pants at HRT l hope they make it.

[roachy101]

that's going to hurt hrt a little but they should be able to sort something else out. perhaps they'll speak to lola....

[chunder]

So does this mean Hispania are no more? Surely if they and Dallara are no longer partner Dallara are not liable to supply parts.

They are allegedly owed money anyway from Campos, hance a possible reason for failing to do much with the car!

I am saddened by this, Dallara are a superb chassis constructor. They compleye took hold of F3, designed GT cars and good F1 cars in the past.

Think pot and kettle here to be honest.

[steve_r]

Starting from scratch again, could mean that they will be nowhere near Lotus and Virgin next season who will benefit from continuity.

[jab]

Well they still own the rights to the chassis. It's not like Dallara are going to take the cars with them and scarper. The IP is HRT's

[Sodemo]

Originally Posted by jab

Well they still own the rights to the chassis. It's not like Dallara are going to take the cars with them and scarper. The IP is HRT's

However by the sounds of things they want to put this chassis in the nearest skip and start over...

[nea]

I've seen some stuff elsewhere that doesn't say it explicitly, but does cryptically imply Toyota chassis may be used. Be it this season or next.

[manwell]

Surely Hispania realise that the have to PAY Dallara for the updates?

[ptclaus98]

Originally Posted by nea

I've seen some stuff elsewhere that doesn't say it explicitly, but does cryptically imply Toyota chassis may be used. Be it this season or next.

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[Marbot]

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I too have heard that the 'TTFN' 110 would be used by a team in the near future. It was for sale a while back. Still can't understand why no one bought it.

[Dead-Eye]

Originally Posted by nea

I've seen some stuff elsewhere that doesn't say it explicitly, but does cryptically imply Toyota chassis may be used. Be it this season or next.

It would have to be next season because of the chassis homologation rules, I think.

[nea]

Originally Posted by ptclaus98

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[herowassenna]

Originally Posted by chunder

So does this mean Hispania are no more? Surely if they and Dallara are no longer partner Dallara are not liable to supply parts.

They are allegedly owed money anyway from Campos, hance a possible reason for failing to do much with the car!

I am saddened by this, Dallara are a superb chassis constructor. They compleye took hold of F3, designed GT cars and good F1 cars in the past.

Think pot and kettle here to be honest.

It's amazing how a manufacturer with Dallara's reputation is being held up as a sham. They competed in F1 in the 1990's and their car was state of the art then, equivalent in manufacturing terms with anything else being produced. Just not as competitive.
Since then, they have completely dominated F3 to the point that Ralt, Reynard and co can't compete.
Yet people want to believe a start up team that struggled for money etc to be completely innocent in everything.
Given the choice of where I'd place my money, it would be the established manufacturer everytime

[edington Mains]

Originally Posted by nea

I've seen some stuff elsewhere that doesn't say it explicitly, but does cryptically imply Toyota chassis may be used. Be it this season or next.

Originally Posted by ptclaus98

.uoy fo citpyrc woH

Source????

[chunder]

Me too hero

I read now that Hispania will update teh car themselves, meaning Dallara have no input into the current car and are left with a bad reputation. Unjustifiably in my view.

I like to see Hispania, theya re a great underdog team and Chandhok in particular has really impressed with his attitude and friendliness.

Shame the team can't be so polished.

[Belatti]

I havent read much about the topic, but as far as I knew some months ago, Campos aka HRT didnt pay the initially requested money to Dallara so they doesnt have the rights of the car design, thus Campos HRT has no blueprints.

That means now they will have to do reverse engineering to understand the car. Not a cheap thing to do. Or they found the cash or they will disapear this way.

On the other hand, I believe Dallara hasnt designed nothing more than a GP2 with F1 wings and mounted a Cossie with 100HP++ than the 4 liter Renault V8.

[Bonanza]

well, HRT is turning into a fiasco.

another Andrea Moda, anyone?

[ptclaus98]

Originally Posted by edington Mains

Source????

Some bloke who works on FunCup cars, probably not much to it.

[jab]

Originally Posted by edington Mains

Source????

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Originally Posted by Bonanza

well, HRT is turning into a fiasco.

another Andrea Moda, anyone?

No way. HRT have pulled off minor miracles this year. Andrea Moda is a completely different kettle of fish

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by chunder

I read now that Hispania will update the car themselves, meaning Dallara have no input into the current car and are left with a bad reputation. Unjustifiably in my view.

I'm not sure Dallara have anything to be ashamed about, or to worry about. It's pure business that's all?

Motor racing and F1 has always had situations where drivers, engine or chassis suppliers have parted company over money, or lack of it.

[nobster]

I had high expectation from the Dallara, based on the BMS Dallara cars which were not too bad.
Just a shame that the car probably will not come of the last two qualifying rows, they should deserve better.

[Marbot]

Both Geoff Willis and Christian Klien pulled down the Dallara chassis for not being up to F1 standards.

"Obviously this car is not quite on an F1 standard – there is just a lack of downforce big time that the car has," said Klien in Barcelona. "Also the small details on the car are not as good as the top cars, so it is quite easy to get in the car and tell the engineers many things on where the other cars are better."

Giving it the same amount of downforce as a McLaren will improve things greatly.