Cosworth BDG slide throttle bodies

BillBingley · 28 Sep 2009, 20:13 (Ref:2550035)

I have a set of slide throttle bodies originally from a BDG I would say but currently fitted with a removable adapter plate to mate them to a NA Ford YB.

Please let me know what kind of money I should be looking at for them.

I'm not trying to sell them on this forum as I'm not sure if that's aloud & I think I know a man who will buy them I just need to know the rough value

Thanks in advance
Bill

p261brm · 28 Sep 2009, 20:29 (Ref:2550042)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillBingley

I have a set of slide throttle bodies originally from a BDG I would say but currently fitted with a removable adapter plate to mate them to a NA Ford YB.

Please let me know what kind of money I should be looking at for them.

I'm not trying to sell them on this forum as I'm not sure if that's aloud & I think I know a man who will buy them I just need to know the rough value

Thanks in advance
Bill

Geoff Richardson?

BillBingley · 28 Sep 2009, 20:31 (Ref:2550047)

Oh & if they are worth pennys would anyone know if they will work with boost??

Bill

p261brm · 28 Sep 2009, 20:32 (Ref:2550048)

Or Mass they have a fair bit to do with these engines I believe

BillBingley · 28 Sep 2009, 20:40 (Ref:2550052)

Quote:

Originally Posted by p261brm

Geoff Richardson?

Yeh that's who I was going to ring if I had no joy on here.

zefarelly · 29 Sep 2009, 08:17 (Ref:2550307)

KAM?

I wonder if they'd bolt onto a precrossflow 1500

**John Turner** · 29 Sep 2009, 10:26 (Ref:2550378)

By all means discuss what their application/potential is but any discussion re valuations/offers by PM only please, because, no, you can't simply use Ten-Tenths to sell them.

eamonn ledwidge · 29 Sep 2009, 11:22 (Ref:2550424)

Yes, would be perfect but only if you are doing a MAE style downdraft conversion. Should add 25/30 BHP, but may raise a few eligibility eyebrows!

Quote:

Originally Posted by zefarelly

KAM?

I wonder if they'd bolt onto a precrossflow 1500

SAMD · 29 Sep 2009, 14:06 (Ref:2550537)

Definately worth over 20 quid.

BillBingley · 29 Sep 2009, 16:50 (Ref:2550658)

Don't worry I have no intentions of selling them on here

I'll more than likely sell them to one of a couple of people my my dad knew which is why I knew what they should have been fastened to rather than a more modern YB.

Mechanical fuel injection is what these work with normally tho with some fab work It shouldn't be too much of a problem to get them running with a EFI system.

I'm tempted to pop them on my Honda but I might get hunted down by my mates who are into their Fords

Does anyone have any links to more information about these??

Thanks
Bill

zefarelly · 29 Sep 2009, 18:47 (Ref:2550723)

Quote:

Originally Posted by eamonn ledwidge

Yes, would be perfect but only if you are doing a MAE style downdraft conversion. Should add 25/30 BHP, but may raise a few eligibility eyebrows!

eligibility? whats that ?

If they stuck 12" out the top of the bonnet no one would bat an eyelid

driftwood · 29 Sep 2009, 22:12 (Ref:2550855)

why waste time fitting old technology slides to a modern car when you can get modern throttle bodies with injectors MBE ecu to do all teh work and some one will hav eteh map for that set up otherwise yr the 1 footing the dyno cost or rolling road cost to do the map
I have 6 mm Lucas mechanical metering unit of the buyer fts the slides to 1600 BDA motor and electro mechanical fuel pumps all overhauled ready to go should just need the injectors then!

BillBingley · 30 Sep 2009, 14:05 (Ref:2551235)

Well I spoke to a couple of people today including Geoff Richardson & it seems as the body is made from magnesium they are from a DFV!

driftwood · 30 Sep 2009, 14:55 (Ref:2551273)

mechanical or electric injection
left or right bank?

BillBingley · 30 Sep 2009, 16:29 (Ref:2551353)

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftwood

why waste time fitting old technology slides to a modern car when you can get modern throttle bodies with injectors MBE ecu to do all the work and some one will have the map for that set up otherwise your the one footing the dyno cost or rolling road cost to do the map
I have 6 mm Lucas mechanical metering unit of the buyer fits the slides to 1600 BDA motor and electro mechanical fuel pumps all overhauled ready to go should just need the injectors then!

Fitting them was never really going to be an option as unless they had no real value but if I did want or need to fit them my car already runs an aftermarket ECU/wideband o2/EGT, I can weld, one of my best mates is a CNC machinist & I tune my own cars as well as others. I've made ITB's using bike set ups in the past which my last 1.8 NA Vtec engine made 235hp with 157lbs ft without going crazy with parts as it was my only car at the time. My current project car is running a turbo engine anyway so they wouldn't really provide much of an advantage over the set up I have now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftwood

mechanical or electric injection
left or right bank?

Well the reference numbers cast into them is....

SM EA0017 on the mounting face to the head.

EA 0016 SM on the far side from the alloy block on the trumpets side

I only spoke to Geoff on the phone so he's not seen any pictures of them & tho I've seen plenty of DFV's while growing up I have no idea but I'm sure an expert would know from a quick look

Thanks for the help
Bill

james c · 1 Oct 2009, 00:23 (Ref:2551603)

Bill, not much help but I can tell you it's not DFV or BD. Too many bolt holes in original head mating face for a BD and not enough for a DFV.

BillBingley · 1 Oct 2009, 16:12 (Ref:2552026)

Ah thanks for the infomation.

I'll get the adapter plate took off after I've eaten & take a picture of the head mounting face

I take it the reference numbers that a cast into them arn't any help?

Bill

BillBingley · 1 Oct 2009, 18:46 (Ref:2552158)

Well as most of the tools are being stored at my Bro's house while I have a new garage built I'll have to wait till tomorrow as I didn't keep any allen keys here

happyhector · 17 Oct 2009, 17:39 (Ref:2563309)

what you have is a rare chevvy vega slide throttle assembly with an adaptor block to convert to the head face of a cossy yb. If you need any more info just ask.

Clive Brown · 17 Oct 2009, 20:28 (Ref:2563371)

That'll be a Cosworth EA, then!

happyhector · 19 Oct 2009, 13:30 (Ref:2564650)

ties in with the casting numbers nicely doesn't it?
The little cover on the end houses the end of the steel throttle slide plate. Works well if you use a linear pot in conjunction with any aftermarket efi systems. Have fun.

BillBingley · 1 Nov 2009, 22:13 (Ref:2573751)

Thanks for the information.

I've been mega busy with work & kicking my builders into shape to keep the garage to the plans

A quick google search brought up the above picture but that's missing the alloy block that the throttle plate slides into

I take it they are mainly used in the US historics then?

Linear pot was my plan to run them with my ECU if I choose

Bill

Sparton · 3 Nov 2009, 22:09 (Ref:2575207)

David Gathercole has had pumps re-manufactured & supplies complete kits.

http://www.davidgathercole.co.uk/mec...injection.html

Mike Bell · 4 Nov 2009, 05:59 (Ref:2575375)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparton

David Gathercole has had pumps re-manufactured & supplies complete kits.

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