2014 IndyCar schedule - Page 8

D.R.T. · 23 Sep 2013, 02:06 (Ref:3307926)

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Originally Posted by mountainstar

This is just a version of the USAC schedule in the late 1970's with doubleheaders and such tricks.

If this was a series people wanted to see they could write their own terms.

Thats probably an over simplistic view of the current marketplace sport exists in but agreed they arent negotiating from a position of power.

Doubleheaders have been met with support from promoters so I wouldnt be calling it a trick. I wouldnt want them for every round next year but the fact that other promoters want them for their events as its helping with sponsors, crowds etc can only be a good thing.

Yannick · 25 Sep 2013, 08:49 (Ref:3309107)

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Originally Posted by mountainstar

If this was a series people wanted to see they could write their own terms.

Well, mountainstar, I would like to watch this series but in my location in Germany, it is not available on free TV, and only since Sonoma, it is shown by some digital pay TV station. And since I cannot watch the races that are held in Pacific and Mountain time because of living on Central European time, pay TV is not an option. So I must deal with crummy webstreams every race.

Fact is, IndyCar has shown better racing in 2012 and 2013 than any other International major open wheel racing series category, and the reasons for that are their spec chassis, their Firestone tyre compounds and the way they maintain their aerodynamics rules now on ovals.

I understand Penske, Ganassi and Andretti might not like it that others have been winning races in the spec car this year, too, but Brazil, won by Sato for AJ Foyt's team, won't be back, and Baltimore, won by Simon Pagenaud for Sam Schmidt's team, won't be back either - and Mike Conway who won for Dale Coyne at Detroit was and still is a part-timer, and Tony Kanaan who won the Indy 500 for KV does not have a deal yet for next year, so the Big 3 should not have much to worry about regarding their dominance of this series.
Yet, it's more fun to see the smaller teams beat them on the track.

marcostraz · 25 Sep 2013, 10:29 (Ref:3309144)

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Originally Posted by Yannick

Brazil, won by Sato for AJ Foyt's team

Brazil was won by Hinchcliffe of Andretti Autosport...

Paradise City · 25 Sep 2013, 11:02 (Ref:3309154)

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Originally Posted by marcostraz

Brazil was won by Hinchcliffe of Andretti Autosport...

Now that's a real testament to the lousy quality of the stream Yannick has had to endure.

Yannick · 25 Sep 2013, 11:36 (Ref:3309166)

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Originally Posted by Paradise City

Now that's a real testament to the lousy quality of the stream Yannick has had to endure.

No, I just got my stats wrong. I guess it's been a long night yesterday. This is one for the bloopers reel - if there was one on a forum like this.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 25 Sep 2013, 13:24 (Ref:3309210)

The Firestone 550 at TMS will be the Firestone 600 next year.

http://www.indycar.com/News/2013/09/...-Speedway-race

Flo aus N · 26 Sep 2013, 08:40 (Ref:3309503)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

The Firestone 550 at TMS will be the Firestone 600 next year.

http://www.indycar.com/News/2013/09/...-Speedway-race

well, then they could race the legendary Firehawk 600.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpGsTyv96Rk

ChuckB · 26 Sep 2013, 20:36 (Ref:3309781)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

So Derrick Walker calls 2014 transitional,

I sure hope so, but I have my doubts. How many years have we heard this? Especially when it comes to Road America? I want a guarantee of some kind Derrick, if it doesn't happen what do I get for wasting another year?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 26 Sep 2013, 21:26 (Ref:3309799)

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Originally Posted by Flo aus N

well, then they could race the legendary Firehawk 600.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpGsTyv96Rk

That was the straw that broke CART's back.

Marcus666 · 26 Sep 2013, 21:44 (Ref:3309801)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

That was the straw that broke CART's back.

Wasn't it also the pop off valve controversy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIrSu1LUoOw

**bjohnsonsmith** · 26 Sep 2013, 22:22 (Ref:3309817)

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Originally Posted by Marcus666

Wasn't it also the pop off valve controversy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIrSu1LUoOw

The pop off valve controversy didn't help as it came hard on the heals of the Firehawk 600 but the real damage was done when Speedway Motorsports sued CART in May of 2001 for breach of contract, which included damages for ticket refunds and the $2.1 million sanction fee as well as compensation for promotional expenses and lost profits.

Both sides settled for an undisclosed amount though it was estimated between $5 – $7 million and contracts for future races in 2002 and 2003 were cancelled. On top of that CART reported it spent $3.5 million on legal costs, resulting in a $1.7 million loss for the third quarter of 2001.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 27 Sep 2013, 11:02 (Ref:3309988)

A.J. Foyt against Indy road course race before the 500 in 2014.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/110148

JacobP · 27 Sep 2013, 12:55 (Ref:3310042)

It looks like another moribund IndyCar season is shaping up for 2014. As of now, I personally have no interest in watching any of it past the Indy 500. In fact, I am kind of rooting for Tudor USCR to overtake IndyCar in popularity. After all, what's there not to like about USCR? Racing on North America's best road courses: check. Great looking cars and variety: check. Lots of close racing: almost certainly check (based on current AMLS and Grand Am experience).

PS: The closely spaced Indianapolis and California events do look strange..

NaBUru38 · 30 Sep 2013, 20:14 (Ref:3311183)

2014 calendar so far:

March 28-30: St. Petersburg
April 11-13: Long Beach
May 8-10: Indianapolis (Brickyard GP?)
May 25: Indianapolis 500
May 30-June 1: Detroit
June 6-7: Texas
July 5-6: Pocono
July 18-20: Toronto
August 1-3: Mid-Ohio

Curt Cavin says that Barber, Milwaukee, Iowa, Sonoma, Houston and Fontana are "still to be announced". Fontana is expected for September 5-7.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 30 Sep 2013, 22:39 (Ref:3311229)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

2014 calendar so far:

March 28-30: St. Petersburg
April 11-13: Long Beach
May 8-10: Indianapolis (Brickyard GP?)
May 25: Indianapolis 500
May 30-June 1: Detroit
June 6-7: Texas
July 5-6: Pocono
July 18-20: Toronto
August 1-3: Mid-Ohio

Curt Cavin says that Barber, Milwaukee, Iowa, Sonoma, Houston and Fontana are "still to be announced". Fontana is expected for September 5-7.

I can't say I'm overly excited by this.

Paradise City · 30 Sep 2013, 22:56 (Ref:3311235)

I don't mind the calender bar that Indy roadcourse nonsense and the big hole in the series left by the presumable absence of Brazil. Brazil is a place that could reap a little harvest, I'd be putting all efforts into retaining it. Get Helio and Tony to go beg the governor or something.

Too many uncertainties. I appreciate a few "TBC's" at this point but they should be doing better than that. I fear a sponsorship exodus triggered by GoDaddy's departure - these sponsors are going to sober up with the dismal ratings eventually. If they get over this winter fair juice to them. They should be playing up Montoya to the hilt.

D.R.T. · 1 Oct 2013, 00:52 (Ref:3311266)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I can't say I'm overly excited by this.

Were you not excited by the 2013 races?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 1 Oct 2013, 01:04 (Ref:3311268)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Were you not excited by the 2013 races?

Not all of them.

D.R.T. · 1 Oct 2013, 01:42 (Ref:3311272)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Not all of them.

But the majority?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 1 Oct 2013, 15:15 (Ref:3311500)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

But the majority?

Unfortunately I missed a few races, for one reason or another but on the whole the racing has been a vast improvement on what went on before but I remember seeing better.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 1 Oct 2013, 15:20 (Ref:3311503)

I see Laguna Seca has lost the MotoGP race for 2014. It would behoove the IRL to take advantage of this.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report...ce=mostpopular

D.R.T. · 1 Oct 2013, 22:58 (Ref:3311699)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Unfortunately I missed a few races, for one reason or another but on the whole the racing has been a vast improvement on what went on before but I remember seeing better.

But good enough to be excited about on the whole.

I would have thought that would have been enough to be interested or excited in the 2014 schedule which still has good venues, new drivers & a proven package to deliver good racing.

NaBUru38 · 1 Oct 2013, 23:28 (Ref:3311704)

So...

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The Grand Prix of Indianapolis will be the name of new IndyCar Series event to be run on the Indianapolis road course.

This will be a very different event than the '500' and will be one of three major weekends of excitement at IMS in May.

Practice and qualifying are scheduled for Friday, May 9, with the race Saturday, May 10. The first day of practice for the 98th Indianapolis 500 is scheduled for Sunday, May 11.

The race will feature a standing start and will run clockwise, the opposite of the Indianapolis 500, creating even more diverse competition during the month.

All series in the Mazda Road to Indy will compete during the event, placing a singular spotlight on all levels of North American open-wheel racing.

NaBUru38 · 2 Oct 2013, 05:03 (Ref:3311748)

And here's the map of the course.

Good news: turns 5-7 will be bypassed, so after turn 4 there will be an esses into the backstraight.

Bad news: the last corner won't be the oval turn 1, but a modified version of the MotoGP detour.

Peat · 2 Oct 2013, 07:28 (Ref:3311776)

So, they've essentially just cut all the corners. 'Turn 5&6'..... Turns? Come oooon.

Shame they are not using Indy T1, the talk of the test was the massive tow you'd get, would have made for some spicy action.

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