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Old 7 Apr 2017, 16:14 (Ref:3724365)   #61
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No it isn't.

Why? because aero means wind tunnels, and even more money, CFD engineers, huge software inputs and vast expense.

If you want WRX to go from basically a rich privateer run sport to full factory within 5 years fair enough.

But were will you be 5 years after when WRC has come back, is getting good again and is far more controlled and relevant to manufacturers.

IMG are making hay right now due to F1 being garbage and WRC being fairly poor, but WRC has a bit of impetus behind it with the new rules. And some PROPER manufacturers behind it, not two bit dealer teams like WRX.

It's all a good thing, but rallycross has made a quantum leap, with absolutely no care for anything but profit.

That can only be good long term if that is looked after and IMG don't give a monkeys about anything but WRX obviously. And making money.

MotoGP, a far. far bigger series dumped aero last year for the same reason, cost.

So be careful what you wish for lad.

Speedway under their control has stagnanted a little recently, and rallycross will aswell, it can only go so far.
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Old 7 Apr 2017, 16:26 (Ref:3724366)   #62
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Then there was a Ford Motorsport film this winter, where we could see some CFD visualizations and an aero engineer scroll through what looked like twenty iterations of a WRC style rear wing.
Yep, that clip is what led to my thoughts about possible aero gains/advantages!

I think it's unarguable that the cars have made a leap forward in the last few years - and it's brilliant to see the current cars being taken as far as possible - but, with the current balance between works/private teams, I do think Chunder has a point with regards to spiralling costs.

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Did anything come of the accusations of illegal traction control in the Beetle ECU? I remember some freakishly fast starts. No issue here with the spec ECU.
Unknown. I didn't see anything further on the matter (at least in the public domain) and, as the GRC regulations aren't available to the public, it's impossible to say if the GRC introduced any measures to control ECU/software usage.

As you say, the ECU/software regulations in the World Championship should prevent that from ever becoming an issue.
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Old 7 Apr 2017, 19:09 (Ref:3724418)   #63
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The moment one of them retires with a blown rad after inevitably hitting someone.

Things might change
Ten years ago almost every supercar / division 1 car had a longitudinal mounted
engine...
We can see other soluties are working also!
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Old 7 Apr 2017, 19:44 (Ref:3724431)   #64
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The only reason the engine config never changed was config, nothing more.

Just much easier back then, transmissions and everything were far cheaper and developed with long engines. it took big money to develop a decent rallycross spec transmission.

These cras develop mroe power than most stuff transmission is developed for.
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Uploaded some pictures from Barcelona. Few of my faves...











...few more at the following link if anyone is interested!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/229616...57682445566686

Going back to our earlier conversation Silhuette...

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Funny how we seem to have such different impressions of the Polo's in flight characteristics I might just be remembering what suits me.
...this is what I saw which made me think that the Polo was nose heavy:



I have a number of pictures of Johan and Petter both coming down like this. The only other Supercar consistently landing on the nose like this was Andrea Dubourg after he lost his rear wing!
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 18:27 (Ref:3726158)   #66
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Thanks Steve, great pictures from an excellent photographer
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Thanks Steve, great pictures from an excellent photographer
Thanks for the kind words! I was rather anxious about shooting in Spain, but I'm really pleased with how some of the pictures came out.
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Sorry to say but the first photo isn't really sharp.
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Sorry to say but the first photo isn't really sharp.
I'm really not a fan of the new Hoonigan livery: it's permanently out of focus!
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I'm really not a fan of the new Hoonigan livery: it's permanently out of focus!
It's not a fiesta to see this Hoonigan Focus.
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Thanks for sharing your excellent pics - really nice use of shutter and movement to capture speed and energy!

The Polo surely looks a touch front heavy 😁
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