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Old 8 Nov 2017, 20:03 (Ref:3779515)   #46
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You ever run over a child's toy? Even those little pieces of plastic can dent your car just leaving your residence. Imagine a baseball at 150kmh. That has potential to be deadly. If you watch baseball at all, you see pitchers get hit with a batted ball, it can be life-threatening if hit in the head. I imagine they played it safe for good reason in Mexico.
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Old 8 Nov 2017, 20:33 (Ref:3779521)   #47
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Donít bother. I stopped doing this as itís not worth the crying and being shouted at by the parents.
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Old 8 Nov 2017, 20:35 (Ref:3779522)   #48
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The non SC car methods work for me. As they are generally better I’m OK with them using them a little bit more. Safety is improved and it keeps the disruption and unfairness to a minimum.
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Old 8 Nov 2017, 21:06 (Ref:3779527)   #49
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Donít bother. I stopped doing this as itís not worth the crying and being shouted at by the parents.
It's even worse when you miss the toy and run over the child. There tears and shouting and ambulances and everything. So much drama. Well worth the Full Course Yellow
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Old 9 Nov 2017, 14:00 (Ref:3779611)   #50
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nowadays overprotectiveness and extreme desire for safety have pretty much created the same environment in WEC and IMSA, it's just the FCY procedures that are different. I don't see how that makes either one of them better or worse than the other, both throw in a neutralization as soon as someone farts....
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I don't think either is better or worse. But the FCY system in WEC is certainly less artificial than the full SC system. That's why it was introduced. I have no problem for a FCY being used as it has no negative effect on the race. I don't think either is a better or worse system, but I don't think it can be said the FCY is artificial.
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Old 9 Nov 2017, 22:39 (Ref:3779700)   #52
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I’d go with FCY is better in a lot of situations. The difference is the impact they have on the race. That they both share a common desire to reduce danger does not make them the same.

A race director should have both (FCY and SC) of these and other weapons (local yellow and red flags) in their armoury.
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Old 11 Nov 2017, 12:39 (Ref:3779906)   #53
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Just watched the replay. What a bloody moron Lopez is! That guy is not thinking. It's not just lack of experience. He is not driving with his head.

Sorry Toyota, you will not ever win if you have guys like that in your car. You *do not* take out another car fighting for a win!
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Just watched the replay. What a bloody moron Lopez is! That guy is not thinking. It's not just lack of experience. He is not driving with his head.

Sorry Toyota, you will not ever win if you have guys like that in your car. You *do not* take out another car fighting for a win!
3 times World Champion.
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3 times World Champion.
In a very different discipline.
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People said that about Kazuki Nakajima when he got into an accident with the deltawing. People said it about Kamui Kobayashi. People said that about Mike Conway when he made mistakes at Austin a couple years back. All proven wrong because they all have wins.
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As mentioned above it didn’t stop McNish being rated highly.
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Lopez just hasn't had enough experience. Generally you work up to LMP1, not go from touring cars to LMP1. He'll improve with time and be fine. I don't think he should be dropped, but I do think Toyota should be putting him in every multi-class race they can from now until April to try and bulk up the experience a bit.

On the flip side, I don't think "3 times world champion" is a relative response. He is a 3 time world champion - in single class, front wheel drive touring car racing. If this was BTCC, then he'd be incredible. But this is a very different discipline, so this sort of winning record isn't necessarily relevant. He's clearly very fast, he's clearly not daft (otherwise he wouldn't be in the car), but he is inexperienced and no amount of touring car titles are an answer to that.

As I say, put him in every multi-class race you can find until then. I'm sure you could find a seat for him in AsLMS (with Toyota money), and the early IMSA races. Hell, some experience in the GT side wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing either.
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 13:38 (Ref:3780050)   #59
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guys,

i just posted my latest race analysis, relative to this race.

https://drracing.wordpress.com/2017/...race-analysis/

As always, any feedback would be very appreciated.
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Lopez just hasn't had enough experience. Generally you work up to LMP1, not go from touring cars to LMP1. He'll improve with time and be fine. I don't think he should be dropped, but I do think Toyota should be putting him in every multi-class race they can from now until April to try and bulk up the experience a bit.

On the flip side, I don't think "3 times world champion" is a relative response. He is a 3 time world champion - in single class, front wheel drive touring car racing. If this was BTCC, then he'd be incredible. But this is a very different discipline, so this sort of winning record isn't necessarily relevant. He's clearly very fast, he's clearly not daft (otherwise he wouldn't be in the car), but he is inexperienced and no amount of touring car titles are an answer to that.

As I say, put him in every multi-class race you can find until then. I'm sure you could find a seat for him in AsLMS (with Toyota money), and the early IMSA races. Hell, some experience in the GT side wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing either.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him do something in IMSA in his time away from the WEC. He may even make a Super GT appearance. That would help a lot with traffic. He still has Bahrain left this year as well.
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