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Old 25 Oct 2016, 17:46 (Ref:3682784)   #16
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Anyone else heard the rumour that other UK circuits are trying to poach the British round from Lydden?
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Old 25 Oct 2016, 17:58 (Ref:3682790)   #17
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Anyone else heard the rumour that other UK circuits are trying to poach the British round from Lydden?
I posted a story a few months ago (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/124606) that mentioned about development of the Stowe area of Silverstone, the purpose of which was to cater for new events, one of which was World Rallycross.

Might have been a general statement: or perhaps it was a statement of intent!
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Old 25 Oct 2016, 18:06 (Ref:3682793)   #18
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Anyone else heard the rumour that other UK circuits are trying to poach the British round from Lydden?
It would not surprise me.
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Old 25 Oct 2016, 20:29 (Ref:3682829)   #19
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I would imagine IMG are stoking this aswell, they will want more and more and more money from every possible venue, and stoking up some interest from other circuits, selling the tv, sponsorship etc is all about trying to make what you are selling sound amazing. So they will have sales people making enquiries and pushing Doran to spend more on hosting fees, it's what these big ******** marketing firms do sadly.

Until you actually have to make money yourself after you have handed them 30 grand for the privilege.

Lydden is tiny all these stories of 10000 people are utter tosh, you couldn't get more than 5 or 6000 people in there. Where as at other tracks, though much dearer to hire, you could get far, far more if you PR the bejesus out of it.

Will believe it when I see it, but IMG don't give any shred of a damn about history, tradition, we all know that.

ALL they care about, will care about, have ever cared about is money.
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Old 26 Oct 2016, 12:21 (Ref:3682974)   #20
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I don't know if anyone else has seen the Audi press release this morning...

https://www.audi-mediacenter.com/en/...ad-of-wec-6980

...where they have made the (utterly stupid) decision to withdraw from the WEC and focus on Formula E instead. The press release also includes a few lines about the World Rallycross Championship, specifically:

"No final decision has yet been made concerning a future involvement in the FIA World Rallycross Championship (World RX). In the current 2016 season, DTM factory driver Mattias Ekström in his Audi S1 EKS RX quattro clinched the World Championship title early, competing against numerous factory teams. Up to now, Audi’s involvement has been limited to supporting the private EKS team. The brand is currently evaluating a possible extension of the commitment, the exciting topic of electrification being on the agenda in rallycross racing as well."

All electric World RX cars? I hope not!
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Old 26 Oct 2016, 12:53 (Ref:3682991)   #21
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I don't know if anyone else has seen the Audi press release this morning...

https://www.audi-mediacenter.com/en/...ad-of-wec-6980

...where they have made the (utterly stupid) decision to withdraw from the WEC and focus on Formula E instead. The press release also includes a few lines about the World Rallycross Championship, specifically:

"No final decision has yet been made concerning a future involvement in the FIA World Rallycross Championship (World RX). In the current 2016 season, DTM factory driver Mattias Ekström in his Audi S1 EKS RX quattro clinched the World Championship title early, competing against numerous factory teams. Up to now, Audi’s involvement has been limited to supporting the private EKS team. The brand is currently evaluating a possible extension of the commitment, the exciting topic of electrification being on the agenda in rallycross racing as well."

All electric World RX cars? I hope not!
Audi have just killed the LMP1 class. They've committed to DTM (but like the other manufacturers in DTM will run less cars) - I guess they're hoping the switch to 'class 1' regulations will bring in the Japanese manufacturers from Super GT that they've been courting.

Formula E seems to be the latest playground for manufacturers - but it's profile is negligible and (IMO) is a dismal series.

I guess there will still be plenty of GT3 machinery shipped out to customer teams and then there's the new TCR cars going out to customer teams. Audi could continue to ride the coat tails of EKS in rallycross all the time the results are there and get some promotion for very little real outlay.

Electric cars have already appeared in the Andros Trophy and I think VW were making noises about having them in Rallycross a while back. All electric racing doesn't appeal to me - the noise of internal combustion engines is part of the appeal of many racing series, electric whining just doesn't cut it. Anti-lag, induction roar, high revving n/a engines, turbo chatter - all good things that add to the experience.
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Old 26 Oct 2016, 13:18 (Ref:3682997)   #22
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Anti-lag, induction roar, high revving n/a engines, turbo chatter - all good things that add to the experience.
Exactly my feelings. If teams were to utilize electric power to make the cars quicker (à la the McLaren P1) that could be interesting, but hybrid power plants are going to be ridiculously expensive, which is not the way I would like to see things go.
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Old 26 Oct 2016, 14:57 (Ref:3683028)   #23
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I am not a big fan of turning rallycross electric either, many your points above sums it up pretty well.

It annoys me that Josh Capito was positive to turn rallycross electric. Sure, as a class of it own it maybe could be something but an "outsider" should not suggest what and whatnot a sport should be. He didn't mention turning rallying electric either.
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Personally I think fair enough on Audi withdrawing, they have nothing let to prove there, backed it when no-one else wanted to and won plenty of races and publicity from it.

I think there are reasons for going E. Largely money, we all know VAG are buggered financially at the moment and though WEC came out of R&D, that cash isn't limitless, especially after their issues, so FE will cost them a boat load less I guess.

As for WRX electric, that's laughable, but would you put it past IMG to allow it? They would do literally anything to appease manufacturers and the big teams and if allowing electric in is a way, and then you get a manufacturer Audi and perhaps a Japanese team interested, IMG will capitulate in an instant.

I have said before they only have their best interests at heart, not rallycross's, they are just using it at the moment and the sport is happily following in the coat tails.

Hybrid is fine, but not electric. Sadly, short races, huge power, you can see where it might be going, though it doesn't really do anything long term to prove the potential of electric vehicles, not in the same way endurance racing does.
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Old 28 Oct 2016, 12:28 (Ref:3683587)   #25
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Not WRX but when it comes to electric cars the coincidence is almost unreal ...

http://redbullglobalrallycross.com/n...s-2018-season/
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Old 28 Oct 2016, 12:36 (Ref:3683590)   #26
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Not WRX but when it comes to electric cars the coincidence is almost unreal ...

http://redbullglobalrallycross.com/n...s-2018-season/
Was just here to post that! Would think GRC would want more numbers in the Supercars before they start adding more classes... interesting move though. Do we think there is enough interest for the WRX to add an electric class as well, or will they wait to see how well the GRC does?
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Since the GRC have announced it already, I believe they will have a sort of monopoly on electric cars in rallycross. This opens up a whole new motorsport and market for electric engineering. Manufactures who are looking on electric cars for the future are probably very excited about this class. With the completely and utterly amazing timing of this announcement just days after Audi announced to focus on electric racing, I can't help but think they will have a car on the start line in 2018 in the US.
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I can't help but think they will have a car on the start line in 2018 in the US.
EKS GRC?...
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I hope not ...

However, Ekström said in a Swedsh podcast that he wanted to see electric cars in the future. He further said it could bring rallycross closer to the fans, all the way into city cores. Feels a bit odd since he don't seem to be a fan of GRC.

He was also critical of IMG because he thought that they didn't utilize the potential that is in rallycross.
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Electric rallycross cars make perfect sense. Lots of power from low speeds, short races, urban and natural venues...

I thought that electric rallycross cars could replace RX Lites, but Global Rallycross says that they will join the two classes.
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