FIA GT Race FIA GT Rnd 6: Dijon 1-3 Sep 2006 - Page 2

Hazard · 3 Sep 2006, 22:02 (Ref:1701053)

Good race though. Janis' come back drive was incredible! Shame his manager's ramblings mean there's no chance of him winning the title now unless he arranges for some food poisoning for Sascha at some point.

However, it's still Bartels/Bertolini vs Piccini & Deletraz, the closest fight for the title.

Bramzel · 4 Sep 2006, 00:21 (Ref:1701123)

And again one of the Vitaphones pushes someone off. When will SRO/FIA teach those guys a lesson? It's by far not the first time this has happened, it's getting a bit annoying now.

The Badger · 4 Sep 2006, 09:43 (Ref:1701382)

What a beautiful track . Its got the lot , elevation changes , trees , greenery and of course a stunning track !!!

One of my favourites . A round of the LMS would be nice there .

The Badger · 4 Sep 2006, 09:47 (Ref:1701387)

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Originally Posted by Hazard

Good race though. Janis' come back drive was incredible! Shame his manager's ramblings mean there's no chance of him winning the title now unless he arranges for some food poisoning for Sascha at some point.

However, it's still Bartels/Bertolini vs Piccini & Deletraz, the closest fight for the title.

BMS will do it , cuz they have 2 scoreing chassis . Pheonix deserve the second place in my opinion . BMS seems to have lost their way . Im thinking it is the tyres , but the works team use Pirelli's in the Alms and they seem to work fine there ?

How come Bert has 1 point more than Janis ?

gwyllion · 4 Sep 2006, 09:57 (Ref:1701397)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

How come Bert has 1 point more than Janis ?

Janis did not race for Zakspeed at Paul Richard.

Bramzel · 4 Sep 2006, 10:03 (Ref:1701401)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

What a beautiful track . Its got the lot , elevation changes , trees , greenery and of course a stunning track !!!

One of my favourites . A round of the LMS would be nice there .

Dijon beautiful? I find it horrible, prehistoric facilities, boring layout, boring scenery. The only beautiful thing about it imho is it's history (Villeneuve vs. Arnoux for example). I guess opinions differ though

Hazard · 4 Sep 2006, 10:09 (Ref:1701403)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

BMS will do it , cuz they have 2 scoreing chassis . Pheonix deserve the second place in my opinion . BMS seems to have lost their way . Im thinking it is the tyres , but the works team use Pirelli's in the Alms and they seem to work fine there ?

I'm talking drivers championship! Don't count Phoenix out from that yet...

1. Michael Bartels/Andrea Bertolini [Vitaphone Maserati] - 49pts
2. Andrea Piccini/Jean-Denis Deletraz [Phoenix Aston Martin] - 44pts

The Real DMN · 4 Sep 2006, 11:12 (Ref:1701447)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

BMS will do it , cuz they have 2 scoreing chassis . Pheonix deserve the second place in my opinion . BMS seems to have lost their way . Im thinking it is the tyres , but the works team use Pirelli's in the Alms and they seem to work fine there ?

How come Bert has 1 point more than Janis ?

The driver switch in the BMS cars is so they can get more data on the tyres.

I am surprised they seem to be struggling given Prodrive are doing so well in the ALMS.

gwyllion · 4 Sep 2006, 11:16 (Ref:1701449)

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Originally Posted by The Real DMN

I am surprised they seem to be struggling given Prodrive are doing so well in the ALMS.

Thanks to some restrictions on the Corvettes

Bramzel · 4 Sep 2006, 11:40 (Ref:1701459)

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Originally Posted by The Real DMN

The driver switch in the BMS cars is so they can get more data on the tyres.

I am surprised they seem to be struggling given Prodrive are doing so well in the ALMS.

I'm a firm believer that the sole problem at BMS at the moment is the tires. They've got top of the line drivers, factory support and a team that has more than proven itself. Those factors combined I can't conclude other than that they really should try to ditch Pirelli for Michelin for next year.

The Badger · 4 Sep 2006, 13:41 (Ref:1701566)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

Dijon beautiful? I find it horrible, prehistoric facilities, boring layout, boring scenery. The only beautiful thing about it imho is it's history (Villeneuve vs. Arnoux for example). I guess opinions differ though

They certainly do !!!

..... but your Dutch , so I understand you not likeing elevation changes . About the highest elevation in Holland would be a dyke ..... what kind of dyke im not sure though !!!

Bramzel · 4 Sep 2006, 15:29 (Ref:1701620)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

They certainly do !!!

..... but your Dutch , so I understand you not likeing elevation changes . About the highest elevation in Holland would be a dyke ..... what kind of dyke im not sure though !!!

Haha

One has to appreciate a good dyke!

Dijon sure has some good elevations, but the layout just doesn't appeal to me, and there's not enough variation in the scenery.

Audi R8R · 4 Sep 2006, 16:31 (Ref:1701646)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

Dijon beautiful? I find it horrible, prehistoric facilities, boring layout, boring scenery. The only beautiful thing about it imho is it's history (Villeneuve vs. Arnoux for example). I guess opinions differ though

Have you actually been round it? It's a cracking little circuit. Yes, the facilities aren't the most up to date, but the team that runs the circuit run it a hell of a lot better than some of the larger more 'modern' circuits that the series runs on.

minimangler · 4 Sep 2006, 19:13 (Ref:1701746)

i'll start by wondering why so many teams
decided on aston when maserati is plainly better
second, i think it a little odd that janis is back
are zakspeed aiming for a gardel and help only one driver to the crown, using a 'better' driver? because janis is the faster in that car, so there was little logic leaving him out.
just a cynic i think!

Osella · 4 Sep 2006, 19:13 (Ref:1701747)

I must've been living under a rock or something, tell me more about the Zonda at Dijon- is it the old Carsport(?) car?

**FIRE** · 4 Sep 2006, 19:17 (Ref:1701752)

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Originally Posted by Osella

I must've been living under a rock or something, tell me more about the Zonda at Dijon- is it the old Carsport(?) car?

yes

**FIRE** · 4 Sep 2006, 19:23 (Ref:1701756)

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Originally Posted by minimangler

i'll start by wondering why so many teams
decided on aston when maserati is plainly better

More expensive, no MC12's available, wanting to race in LMS?

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Originally Posted by minimangler

second, i think it a little odd that janis is back
are zakspeed aiming for a gardel and help only one driver to the crown, using a 'better' driver? because janis is the faster in that car, so there was little logic leaving him out.
just a cynic i think!

There was a disagreement between Zakspeed and Janis.

Osella · 4 Sep 2006, 19:33 (Ref:1701763)

found it.... gorgeous

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...ial_s%26sa%3DG

minimangler · 4 Sep 2006, 19:55 (Ref:1701778)

'disagreement'
more like we want sascha to take the title solo, i think
reeks of controversy to me

**FIRE** · 4 Sep 2006, 20:00 (Ref:1701782)

Why do you think that?

Bramzel · 5 Sep 2006, 11:21 (Ref:1702229)

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Originally Posted by minimangler

'disagreement'
more like we want sascha to take the title solo, i think
reeks of controversy to me

That's nonsense and a absurd conspiracy-theory. It's been clear from the start that the contract was eliminated by Janis and his manager, and not by Zakspeed.

Audi R8R · 5 Sep 2006, 13:48 (Ref:1702357)

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Originally Posted by minimangler

'disagreement'
more like we want sascha to take the title solo, i think
reeks of controversy to me

You need your nasal passages checking then.

There wasn't any controversy, it was well documented at Paul Ricard that Janis' manager had a disagreement with the Zakspeed team and he was withdrawn from the team at that round.

The team were more than happy for him to be back in the car at Dijon. Jarek can't do at least one of the other rounds anyway as he's on A1GP duty for the Czech Republic team too. Methinks that you're looking for something that's not there.

911 GT1 · 6 Sep 2006, 11:28 (Ref:1703197)

Jarek Janis just drove at Dijon because of Peter Zakspeeds invitation. Otherwise he would not have been there. Zakspeed was very happy, that Janis drove the Saleen. He is the fastest man on this chassis.

Montermini had been in Spain this weekend because of his Ferrari contract. So Zakspeed would had no 2nd driver last weekend.

minimangler · 6 Sep 2006, 21:31 (Ref:1703770)

look, i'm entitled to my opinion, and i'm a cynic
but it just doesn't seem right...

Hazard · 6 Sep 2006, 21:58 (Ref:1703790)

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Originally Posted by 911 GT1

Jarek Janis just drove at Dijon because of Peter Zakspeeds invitation. Otherwise he would not have been there. Zakspeed was very happy, that Janis drove the Saleen. He is the fastest man on this chassis.

Montermini had been in Spain this weekend because of his Ferrari contract. So Zakspeed would had no 2nd driver last weekend.

Well...they can't run solo! They would have had to have found someone - or gone home.

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