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Old 26 Jun 2016, 17:01 (Ref:3655221)   #211
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A great concept and great imagery. Just one thing: the paddock space of the oval paddock seems too large / out of scale for a 2.6 mile oval when compared to the GP paddock on the backstretch. Also, how much seating capacity do you think you need for such a circuit? More than they have at Pocono?

Thanks for thinking these through - and for the original design, of course :-)
The paddock may be slighty oversized. I imagined the seating near the start/finish and turn 1 to be for oval racing, while the stands near the Grand Prix pits are used for road racing. (Obviously, who wouldn't want to watch races here? )

Thanks for the comments. It wasn't originally meant to be this complex!

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So many high speed curved braking zones and strange kinks.
Could you specify the areas to don't like, maybe ways to improve?

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Old 3 Jul 2016, 05:55 (Ref:3656406)   #212
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Well, since this is doing so much good just sitting on my C drive.

Adding some tarmac to smooth out the transition off the banking (removable kerbs can make the circuit do whatever the series wants a la Indy road course).

Added a small slab of tarmac to allow a u-turn directly before Turn 2 to go back down the oval pit-out, allowing a slightly extended variation or chicane the oval T2 .

Used the existing tarmac on the back straight to delay the u-turn for the full roval so the braking zone is free and clear of T2.

Completely rejigged the infield to make smoother and faster, with easier return to the banking, primarily to make side by side racing easier.
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Well, since this is doing so much good just sitting on my C drive.

Adding some tarmac to smooth out the transition off the banking (removable kerbs can make the circuit do whatever the series wants a la Indy road course).

Added a small slab of tarmac to allow a u-turn directly before Turn 2 to go back down the oval pit-out, allowing a slightly extended variation or chicane the oval T2 .

Used the existing tarmac on the back straight to delay the u-turn for the full roval so the braking zone is free and clear of T2.

Completely rejigged the infield to make smoother and faster, with easier return to the banking, primarily to make side by side racing easier.

This one looks really nice. I think it would be interesting and challenging to have NASCAR races there. It would add some more diversity to the types of tracks that they race on. Any ideas on where it would be located?
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Old 27 Aug 2016, 20:07 (Ref:3667907)   #214
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This one looks really nice. I think it would be interesting and challenging to have NASCAR races there. It would add some more diversity to the types of tracks that they race on. Any ideas on where it would be located?
Somewhere is NASCAR country devoid of a superspeedway? Where do you think it could work? I'm not too hot on U.S. racetrack distribution...

Sorry AOB, I still prefer my design, I think the flow is better and more interesting. The track is quite wide (15m) so I'm not sure the extra tarmac would be needed. The square bends would still be quite quick as it is despite the small radius.

On the subject of scale, the back straight you drew is the same length of the Sepang pit straight, and I'm not sure having such a fast corner at the end of that straight is the right choice.

Also, I'm not happy about the 100% kink-removal. Embrace the kinks!

Thanks for the reply though, I appreciate the feedback!
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Old 29 Aug 2016, 12:03 (Ref:3668376)   #215
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After thinking my BTB file was broken / gone forever, my Track 64 project is back on! I decided to go straight into building the circuit for rFactor, and skip all the usual details I put in using Sketchup.

Taking inspiration from random junk, this circuit is based on a small piece of wire I saw lying around on a rainy day. After trying two designs, I settled on one and Sketchup'd the basic layout.

Unfortunately the spiral at the end of the back straight didn't work out, with yellow flags displaying and invalidated laps every time I drove through the tunnel, so I tweaked the design to add I nice open hairpin, a great overtaking opportunity.

There's a youtube link below of a little test race I did, apologies for camera phone quality. It's WIP, plenty of scenery and adjustments still to be completed.

https://youtu.be/MqwAlAQmGGg

I believe the circuit is around 4km long with a laptime of around 1:25 - 1:30 in a GT car.
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Old 30 Aug 2016, 04:17 (Ref:3668553)   #216
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Somewhere is NASCAR country devoid of a superspeedway? Where do you think it could work? I'm not too hot on U.S. racetrack distribution...

Sorry AOB, I still prefer my design, I think the flow is better and more interesting. The track is quite wide (15m) so I'm not sure the extra tarmac would be needed. The square bends would still be quite quick as it is despite the small radius.

On the subject of scale, the back straight you drew is the same length of the Sepang pit straight, and I'm not sure having such a fast corner at the end of that straight is the right choice.

Also, I'm not happy about the 100% kink-removal. Embrace the kinks!

Thanks for the reply though, I appreciate the feedback!
Darn It! I quoted the wrong reply. I meant to quote your original post. I think the track is fine just as you designed it, not as AOB said it would be. As far as places that lack adequate NASCAR facilities- anywhere in the Rocky Mountain States (Colorado, Wyoming, New Mexico, Montana, Idaho) and the Cascade States (Oregon and Washington). The rest of the country has plenty of speedways.
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Darn It! I quoted the wrong reply. I meant to quote your original post. I think the track is fine just as you designed it, not as AOB said it would be. As far as places that lack adequate NASCAR facilities- anywhere in the Rocky Mountain States (Colorado, Wyoming, New Mexico, Montana, Idaho) and the Cascade States (Oregon and Washington). The rest of the country has plenty of speedways.
Boulder or Denver in Colorado could be interesting. At that altitude (~1600m) you could lose over 100bhp, according to an online calculator I've just found.

So, instead of running a 280hp restrictor plate, NASCAR would only have to run a 160hp plate. Although a test would be advised before race weekend, just to make sure!
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Ahh, that BTB screenshot makes me re-discover the beauties of track designing...

(and the very first track I drew as a young teen, was also based on a twisted piece of wire...)
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