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5 Jan 2003, 03:05 (Ref:464097)
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Older drivers
I do not understand the shift against older drivers.Bowe in my opinion is still the best driver in the series.He was on pole at Bathurst & leading with another older driver until beset by car trouble.Gentleman Jim is still as good as anyone & better than most despite his age.The Stone Bros. have opted for experience over youth by signing Ingall.
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5 Jan 2003, 03:25 (Ref:464102)
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yeah there is alot of talent and experience floating around and the fact that it is going to waste is very dissapointing and im talking in the form of co-drivers for bathurst. The teams as you said are opting for youth over experience
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5 Jan 2003, 04:19 (Ref:464125)
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But the older guys wont be fast generally if they do no miles all season.
I am a fan of the talents of Andrew Miedecke, and one past team owner was quite critical of Miedecke, saying he was 'past it' and going slower each year, as justification for hiring the equivalent of a school kid. You put these guys in cars, and let them fiddle with them a bit, they will go as fast if not faster than the regular guys... Terry Wyhoon is another case in point, 3rd fastest at Bathurst in the 30 lapper in a 5 year old DJR Falcon... slower only than the L1 Falcon of Youlden and L2 Commodore of Wakefield. He is an older guy, but an incredible talent given the mileage he gets each year I dont subscribe to teh view that letting inexperienced guys in all positions is the most risk-free of activities |
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Happy David Thexton Day, 21st March 2003 “I am not uncertain” - Dollar Bill Stern, Billions “Fear stimulates my imagination” - Don Draper, Mad Men “Everybody Lies” - Dr Gregory House, House “Trust But Verify” - Commissioner Frank Reagan, Blue Bloods
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5 Jan 2003, 09:30 (Ref:464268)
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I agree about 'Mad Andy', he didn't seem all that impressive in his drive at the 500 this year, but that was in a dog of a car. Put Andy in a good car and he would still be quick. But I suppose that could be said of a lot of guys.
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5 Jan 2003, 09:56 (Ref:464282)
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There is another reason 'against' older drivers - salary!
Younger drivers - less experienced (even if damn good) threfore cheaper - older drivers know their worth and consequently you pay for that and their name. |
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5 Jan 2003, 10:23 (Ref:464299)
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yeah really andy hasn't had a good drive since sbr in 1997
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5 Jan 2003, 10:24 (Ref:464300)
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Post removed by myself because it didn't make sense.
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5 Jan 2003, 10:24 (Ref:464301)
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but id love to see and L1 team give terry wyhoon the endurance drive in a good car he deserves
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5 Jan 2003, 21:47 (Ref:464806)
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You cant throw someone in a car with 20 laps testing and expect them to be quick straight away.
The young guys can be fast, but are they safe, are they burning the guts out of the tyres? If I were presenting a marketing proposal at a sponsor, would I prefer to show a Bathurst veteran with a strong history of experience, a good pair of hands, or a kid with dreams of beating Skaife and the car is treated accordingly. |
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Happy David Thexton Day, 21st March 2003 “I am not uncertain” - Dollar Bill Stern, Billions “Fear stimulates my imagination” - Don Draper, Mad Men “Everybody Lies” - Dr Gregory House, House “Trust But Verify” - Commissioner Frank Reagan, Blue Bloods
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5 Jan 2003, 21:53 (Ref:464812)
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Not just the young ones.
A certain ex-F1 champion has a reputaiton for being extremely hard on gear boxes - destroying more than a couple during his stints with various teams... |
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5 Jan 2003, 21:59 (Ref:464816)
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He still thinks he is in the Williams though
 and that the teams he drives for have the same kind of budget too...
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5 Jan 2003, 22:10 (Ref:464827)
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Hey David you suggesting we put des wall in a good v8 team for enduro's
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5 Jan 2003, 23:18 (Ref:464890)
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Terry Wyhoon/Des Wall in the Kitome/Lubrimaxx/D&V Wall Contracting Falcon AU.... sounds pretty nice to me...
A top 10 contender for the Bathurst race, assuming its NOT the Colourscan car |
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Happy David Thexton Day, 21st March 2003 “I am not uncertain” - Dollar Bill Stern, Billions “Fear stimulates my imagination” - Don Draper, Mad Men “Everybody Lies” - Dr Gregory House, House “Trust But Verify” - Commissioner Frank Reagan, Blue Bloods
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5 Jan 2003, 23:37 (Ref:464907)
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sounds good to me
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5 Jan 2003, 23:37 (Ref:464908)
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Moffman I think that Valvoline agree with you too.
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5 Jan 2003, 23:38 (Ref:464911)
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We'll be in the pit crew wont he david
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