Sportscar/GT (and Le Mans) Rumours and Repetition

[MoMedic9019]

Originally Posted by joeb

There has been much talk of a Ferrari p2 engine since the current regs were announced, that is why I lean towards Aston.

Perhaps they are now in a position to make it happen. What does Aston have to gain by supplying P2?

[Rodger Davies]

I'm guessing BMW. Complete guess, based upon that bite from Estoril, the fact that their GT engine is well suited to the transfer and maybe that MarcVdS running ELMS this weekend. Although that latter one is admittedly a bit loose.

[rich07]

I'd say Ferrari with SMP's new LMP2 for 2015

[BullMan]

Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

I'm guessing BMW. Complete guess, based upon that bite from Estoril, the fact that their GT engine is well suited to the transfer and maybe that MarcVdS running ELMS this weekend. Although that latter one is admittedly a bit loose.

The Judd is a BMW engine already.

[Graham Goodwin]

Originally Posted by rich07

I'd say Ferrari with SMP's new LMP2 for 2015

SMP have confirmed Nissan power for their new car

[morningview66]

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

SMP have confirmed Nissan power for their new car

Interesting. Well that throws out my guess!

[rich07]

Originally Posted by morningview66

Interesting. Well that throws out my guess!

And mine too :lol:

Thanks Graham

Hmmm a BMW powered Marc VDS LMP2 effort would be rather cool..

[lms]

speaking of smp, when will we see the new coupe?

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by Sportscar365

***While having recently taken delivery of a second Morgan LMP2 car, Pegasus Racing is aiming to expand into a two-car team next year in the ELMS. The Julien Schell-owned squad will be testing several drivers shortly to complete the 2015 lineup.

Surely, surely this means ACO is gonna give them at least one (non-reserve) LM entry next year when they are supporting their regional series with two cars. Still only ending up on the reserves would be a crime

[ger80]

Originally Posted by Chiana

Surely, surely this means ACO is gonna give them at least one (non-reserve) LM entry next year when they are supporting their regional series with two cars. Still only ending up on the reserves would be a crime

Might be the revenge for running with German license

[Flo aus N]

Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

I'm guessing BMW. Complete guess, based upon that bite from Estoril, the fact that their GT engine is well suited to the transfer and maybe that MarcVdS running ELMS this weekend. Although that latter one is admittedly a bit loose.

BMW already has a LMP2 engine. Its a 3L inline 6 with 3 turbochargers. But guess what ? its a diesel and the ACO does not want to have a diesel in LMP2.

[MoMedic9019]

Originally Posted by Flo aus N

BMW already has a LMP2 engine. Its a 3L inline 6 with 3 turbochargers. But guess what ? its a diesel and the ACO does not want to have a diesel in LMP2.

Says who? It's legal.

5.1.2-

Engine Homologated
(see Article 5.6)
Maximum cylinder capacity
a/ Normally aspirated petrol 5000 cm3
8 cyl. maximum
b/ Turbo/ supercharged petrol 3200 cm3
6 cyl. maximum
c/ Supercharged Diesel

[BullMan]

Originally Posted by MoMedic9019

Says who? It's legal.

5.1.2-

Engine Homologated
(see Article 5.6)
Maximum cylinder capacity
a/ Normally aspirated petrol 5000 cm3
8 cyl. maximum
b/ Turbo/ supercharged petrol 3200 cm3
6 cyl. maximum
c/ Supercharged Diesel

They were illegal, then legal for Mazda. but they never showed up, so they're illegal again right now.

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by MoMedic9019

Says who? It's legal.

5.1.2-

Engine Homologated
(see Article 5.6)
Maximum cylinder capacity
a/ Normally aspirated petrol 5000 cm3
8 cyl. maximum
b/ Turbo/ supercharged petrol 3200 cm3
6 cyl. maximum
c/ Supercharged Diesel

That's an outdated ACO document - you presumably used the one on LM website, dated last december. This is the latest revision from this summer and it specificially (re-) bans any use of diesel in both ART 5 + 6 + 17
http://www.fia.com/sites/default/fil...%202014-dc.pdf

They change their minds all the time, Mazda's money would probably change their heart yet again

[deggis]

Pretty confusing, because iirc for a while pre-cost cap regs it was also banned... then not, and now again.

[MoMedic9019]

Originally Posted by Chiana

That's an outdated ACO document - you presumably used the one on LM website, dated last december. This is the latest revision from this summer and it specificially (re-) bans any use of diesel in both ART 5 + 6 + 17
http://www.fia.com/sites/default/fil...%202014-dc.pdf

They change their minds all the time, Mazda's money would probably change their heart yet again

Ah...yep.

I REDACT THE PRIOR COMMENT!

[Graham Goodwin]

Originally Posted by lms

speaking of smp, when will we see the new coupe?

Car tests in December, first run in public will be WEC Prologue test

Would just add that all of this detail is already on DSC, the Nissan engine part from Le Mans and the rest from Fuji.

[TF110]

John Dagys speaking of a new sportscar series http://twitter.com/johndagys/status/524702291698671618

[Deleted]

Better not be yet another GT3 clone.

[Giba]

http://sportscar365.com/other/south-...ries-launched/

3 race endurance series in South Africa with LMP1, LMP2, GTE plus saloons, GT and sports prototypes allowed to race.

Long term goal is for a WEC race in South Africa

Hope this takes off and interesting that the final round is the return of the Kyalami 9 hours

[Gingers4Justice]

Originally Posted by Giba

http://sportscar365.com/other/south-...ries-launched/

3 race endurance series in South Africa with LMP1, LMP2, GTE plus saloons, GT and sports prototypes allowed to race.

Long term goal is for a WEC race in South Africa

Hope this takes off and interesting that the final round is the return of the Kyalami 9 hours

I wouldn't hold your breath on a 9 hour race at Kyalami - it would almost definitely be a 6 hour race.

It would be a feather in the WEC's cap though if it went to Africa.

[Deleted]

What the article fails to mention is that this launch comes with very confusing timing, seeing as their latest 3h event at Midvaal with same basic ruleset was forced to be cancelled due to lack of entries. Anyway, this is good news indeed on resurrecting the 9 hours as well as establishing sportscar racing in (South) Africa. And their acceptance of full array of ACO cars is always welcome (no 'everybody can win this due to our handicaps' in the brochure here), even if no one really enters. It's the thought that counts

As for WEC, even with Porsche now behind they will not step into Kyalami until they've replaced the crowd stands with gigantic VIP facilities for corporate guests, poured down asphalt to every runoff area, denied entrance from any of the local entries to keep up with the artificial 32-34 gap, changed the track status from Grade 2 to Grade 1 and replace the 9 hour distance to generic six hours. So no going there

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by Giba

http://sportscar365.com/other/south-...ries-launched/

3 race endurance series in South Africa with LMP1, LMP2, GTE plus saloons, GT and sports prototypes allowed to race.

Long term goal is for a WEC race in South Africa

Hope this takes off and interesting that the final round is the return of the Kyalami 9 hours

Why do they have to include LMP1 unless they're fielded by privateers.

Still, I won't be surprised if WEC will host a 6-hour race in Kyalami...

[deggis]

Spanish AS (iirc, not the most trustable source in F1 news) says Porsche has offered a one-off 24 deal for Alonso and McLaren could allow it.

http://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/22-...14737792.shtml
http://www.corrieredellosport.it/for...+chiama+Alonso
http://www.speedweek.com/formel1/new...093-Honda.html

[Canada ALMS fan]

Some interesting news today on Midweek Motorsport from Matt Griffin. When I heard all these GTD teams were looking at GTE-Am I thought it was wishful thinking but if I heard correctly he indicated GTE is the same budget for a season in WEC as GTD in TUSC! GTLM is approx 15% more than a season in GTE as well.