Barcelona testing

[Inigo Montoya]

Its early but...

Mercedes fastest on the softs. Ferrari on the mediums. Many laps put in. So far so good for these two.

Macaroons barely got a lap in before the Honda gave out. Red Bull managed 4. Ugly...

Williams solid with Massa - a good number of laps and a decent time.

Already Hammy is below his pole time of 2016. The cars are ugly, but fast.

[Mike Bell]

1st day times and laps completed on Autosport website, among others...

https://www.autosport.com/news/repor...t-for-mercedes

Would it be OK for an F1 forum moderator to lose an 'L' out of the thread title, please?

[Neppatsrev Xam]

Originally Posted by Inigo Montoya

Its early but...

Mercedes fastest on the softs. Ferrari on the mediums. Many laps put in. So far so good for these two.

Macaroons barely got a lap in before the Honda gave out. Red Bull managed 4. Ugly...

Williams solid with Massa - a good number of laps and a decent time.

Already Hammy is below his pole time of 2016. The cars are ugly, but fast.

Red Bull did 4 in the morning, but 50 in total

1. L. Hamilton Mercedes Grand Prix 01:21.765 73
2. S. Vettel Ferrari 01:21.878 126
3. F. Massa Williams 01:22.076 103
4. K. Magnussen Haas 01:22.894 51
5. D. Ricciardo Red Bull 01:22.926 50
6. V. Bottas Mercedes Grand Prix 01:23.169 79
7. S. Perez Force India F1 01:23.709 39
8. C. Sainz Jr. Scuderia Toro Rosso 01:24.494 51
9. N. Hulkenberg Renault 01:24.784 57
10. F. Alonso McLaren 01:24.852 29
11. M. Ericsson Sauber 01:26.841 72

[chillibowl]

early days indeed, but it gives me some measure of hope to see SV on the mediums so very close to LH's best lap on the softs and also to see Massa right up there too in terms of time and laps completed.

but no doubt by weeks end the Mercs will have crushed that hope!

whats the schedule of drivers? looking forward to seeing what kind of day Stroll can put in.

[Inigo Montoya]

Oops. Sorry about the typo in the thread title.

Chilli - Lance gets the Williams tomorrow.

[chillibowl]

thanks been a while since we have seen a Canadian on the grid.

found a full list for the week.

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi...the_four_days/

interesting to see that Merc plans on having both drivers drive each day (AM/PM rotation)...i feel like thats a bit unusual.

[Inigo Montoya]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

thanks been a while since we have seen a Canadian on the grid.

found a full list for the week.

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi...the_four_days/

interesting to see that Merc plans on having both drivers drive each day (AM/PM rotation)...i feel like thats a bit unusual.

Yes for sure! It will be interesting to see what he can do. His dad certainly invested a lot in his career.

Regarding the merc drivers both driving on the same day, and even alternating who goes first each day... Maybe they are going out of their way to appear as if they are not favouring either.

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

interesting to see that Merc plans on having both drivers drive each day (AM/PM rotation)...i feel like thats a bit unusual.

This was introduced by the team last year because Hamilton was not capable of completing a whole day's testing, so they had to get Rosberg in particular to do extra stints. Amazing that Rosberg was able to complete one and a half straight days testing on one occasion, but Hamilton struggled to just complete the other half day without whinging.

I think that it's because he can't bear to be apart from his two pooches for that long. They are the only ones that understand him fully, and can give him all the love that he craves.

[Akrapovic]

As long as they don't share Bottas data from the afternoon with him.

[JeremySmith]

I think Lewis like Kimi is just more interested in racing, can't blame them really you know they both get a feel for the car very quickly ...

[Oldtony]

When was the last time every team turned up on day one of testing ready to go?
I understand that with the major changes it is important to get miles but on past occasions big changes have been used as an excuse for not being ready.
Don't know why the complaints about looks. I reckon they are going to be a couple of seconds a lap more beautiful by season start.

[Moneyseeker]

If Mercedes turn the wick up I reckon we can see LH into the 1m 19's..or maybe a high 18, if they decide to show their hand...

[F1Guy]

Lap record is 1:21.670. Set in '09 by Raikkonen. We can safely say that will be broken today during day 2.

edit: Hamilton is almost there. 1:21.766!

[spider]

Really hope Honda get on top of everything quickly. Running around in safe mode / breaking down on both days is a little bit concerning...

[Moneyseeker]

Originally Posted by spider

Really hope Honda get on top of everything quickly. Running around in safe mode / breaking down on both days is a little bit concerning...

Some chatter on social media saying that problem may require a redesign of the oil tank and a possible knock on effect of that on other parts of the car - speculation, but who knows - one thing is for sure, Mercedes it isn't.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by spider

Really hope Honda get on top of everything quickly. Running around in safe mode / breaking down on both days is a little bit concerning...

Pathetic Pathetic Pathetic

[10TENTHS]

Originally Posted by F1Guy

Lap record is 1:21.670. Set in '09 by Raikkonen. We can safely say that will be broken today during day 2.

edit: Hamilton is almost there. 1:21.766!

Actually the lap record is 1:19.9.

[F1Guy]

Originally Posted by 10TENTHS

Actually the lap record is 1:19.9.

Actually, the Circuit de Catalunya lap record is 1:21.670, set during the race in 2008 by Kimi Raikkonen. The fastest lap is 1:19.954, set in Q2 by Barrichello in 2009.

Most of, if not all of the lap records will be broken this year, guaranteed. And they could also break the fastest lap records during qualifying this year. If they manage to break the current recorded fastest lap times during the race, it will be an great achievement as the recorded fastest lap times were in mid-to-late 2000's with lighter fuel loads and with better rubber. To break those times during a race will be something indeed.

And I think it could happen. The 2017 cars will be the fastest F1 cars of all time.

[10TENTHS]

Originally Posted by F1Guy

Actually, the Circuit de Catalunya lap record is 1:21.670, set during the race in 2008 by Kimi Raikkonen. The fastest lap is 1:19.954, set in Q2 by Barrichello in 2009.

Most of, if not all of the lap records will be broken this year, guaranteed. And they could also break the fastest lap records during qualifying this year. If they manage to break the current recorded fastest lap times during the race, it will be an great achievement as the recorded fastest lap times were in mid-to-late 2000's with lighter fuel loads and with better rubber. To break those times during a race will be something indeed.

And I think it could happen. The 2017 cars will be the fastest F1 cars of all time.

It's from 2009. Barrichello set it in qualifying as you said.

There was an unofficial faster lap set by Massa in 2008 during testing: http://www.f1technical.net/news/8800

Race laps =! ultimate pace (see the last few years for the delta between the two). They're doing qualifying sims with ultra soft rubber during this test so I think my comment is reasonable - we should compare apples to apples.

Personally I don't think it's a "great achievement" to beat lap records from almost a decade ago with newer technology and higher budgets, but your mileage may vary.

[Inigo Montoya]

Hmmm, Vettel with a 1'19"952 on softs. Pirelli are saying we will be in the 1.18's by the end of testing. These are the fastest cars in the history of F1.

[F1Guy]

That "TT" wing the Mercedes is running sure looks out of place. 2017 cars are stating to look more odd by the day.

[Moneyseeker]

Originally Posted by F1Guy

That "TT" wing the Mercedes is running sure looks out of place. 2017 cars are stating to look more odd by the day.

Yep, best description of these I have read so far as being taken from the top of an old tram......

[wnut]

Here we go again:

22:26 Our rough calculations suggest that if Hamilton had matched his previous best through sector three on that first quick attempt, he would have done a 1m21.2s.

22:26 Another purple time through sector one for the Briton, a bit more like it that time as he ends up two tenths shy of his best.



22:23 Hamilton teased us there with two purple sectors, but he drops over four seconds in the final sector. http://www.autosport.com/live/commen...1-test-day-two

Raikkonen 32nd fastest with 1:22.831 or 1.631 secs off Merc pace. Hopefully all in tyres, Soft v Medium ?

[Mystery]

Williams won't run again today. I expected $troll to provide lots of work for the team in terms of parts but not this soon.

[David A Scott]

Originally Posted by Mystery

$troll