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Old 29 Jul 2011, 08:11 (Ref:2932395)   #326
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I would take that with a pinch of salt: - If Audi and Penske definitely wanted to do P1 in 2012 then ALMS would provide the class for them.
Just saying that if it didn't happen this year, don't expect it to happen now, especially since Audi seemingly would rather run the WEC than the ALMS, and even if Audi did run, would the ALMS really separate LMP1 and LMP2 next year?

I don't think that even with Penske and Porsche showed up next year that they'd split the class. If they won't roll over for Audi or Porsche, they probably won't roll over for anyone else.
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Old 29 Jul 2011, 16:41 (Ref:2932821)   #327
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In the meanwhile, yesterday saw the symbolic turning of the first soil that heralded the start of the extension of its Research and Development Centre in Weissach (Baden-Württemberg). The site is being enlarged through the addition of a highly modern design studio, a high-tech wind tunnel and an electronics integration center. Porsche is investing around 150 million euro in this respect.
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Old 29 Jul 2011, 16:43 (Ref:2932823)   #328
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Old 30 Jul 2011, 03:00 (Ref:2933139)   #329
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In the meanwhile, yesterday saw the symbolic turning of the first soil that heralded the start of the extension of its Research and Development Centre in Weissach (Baden-Württemberg). The site is being enlarged through the addition of a highly modern design studio, a high-tech wind tunnel and an electronics integration center. Porsche is investing around 150 million euro in this respect.
That's a serious investment.
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Old 30 Jul 2011, 03:07 (Ref:2933141)   #330
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In the meanwhile, yesterday saw the symbolic turning of the first soil that heralded the start of the extension of its Research and Development Centre in Weissach (Baden-Württemberg). The site is being enlarged through the addition of a highly modern design studio, a high-tech wind tunnel and an electronics integration center. Porsche is investing around 150 million euro in this respect.
Sounds like porsche is getting into Sportscars for the long term.
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In the meanwhile, yesterday saw the symbolic turning of the first soil that heralded the start of the extension of its Research and Development Centre in Weissach (Baden-Württemberg). The site is being enlarged through the addition of a highly modern design studio, a high-tech wind tunnel and an electronics integration center. Porsche is investing around 150 million euro in this respect.
Thats a big boost for all VAG motorsport entries, including Audi!
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Old 30 Jul 2011, 04:52 (Ref:2933151)   #332
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Note that it says "Porsche is investing around 150 million euro in this respect"
VAG will draw some benefit (especially with regards to road cars - as Porsche is responsible for all VAG sports car platforms), but it is primarily a Porsche investment and facility.

http://www.porsche.com/uk/aboutporsc...&id=2011-07-28
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Old 30 Jul 2011, 08:48 (Ref:2933206)   #333
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Sounds like porsche is getting into Sportscars for the long term.
Either that or Porsche is planning a 4 year programme before moving to F1 in 2018 in a similar fashion to Toyota did in the '90s
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Either that or Porsche is planning a 4 year programme before moving to F1 in 2018 in a similar fashion to Toyota did in the '90s

And if that doesnt happen, then we can speculate about Porsche Joining F1 in 2022, and if that doesnt happen then 2030. Also, if Porsche never joins F1 then we can constantly speculate about Audi joining F1 with Williams, Red Bull, Colin Kolles or Count Chocula.

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And if that doesnt happen, then we can speculate about Porsche Joining F1 in 2022, and if that doesnt happen then 2030. Also, if Porsche never joins F1 then we can constantly speculate about Audi joining F1 with Williams, Red Bull, Colin Kolles or Count Chocula.
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And if that doesnt happen, then we can speculate about Porsche Joining F1 in 2022, and if that doesnt happen then 2030. Also, if Porsche never joins F1 then we can constantly speculate about Audi joining F1 with Williams, Red Bull, Colin Kolles or Count Chocula.
You might as well include Franken Berry in the mix, as you've got Count Chocula.
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You might as well include Franken Berry in the mix, as you've got Count Chocula.
What, you arent taking my comment seriously????? Like another internet racing “expert” my “sources” and my own speculation have helped me predict how Audi is going to leave Le Mans sports car racing for the 900th time. Count Chocula will join HRT, and because of his long relationship with Audi (seen with someone who knew someone who knows Dr Ullrich in 1987) will bring Audi to F1, despite Ullrich calling F1 irrelevant. Red Bull is apparently going to dump their own team and bring sponsorship to HRT Audi. Also, Porsche going to Le Mans means nothing, because with Franken Berry, as you mentioned, Porsche will be headed to NASCAR in 2017. This is what my sources tell me, so it must be true.
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What, you arent taking my comment seriously????? Like another internet racing “expert” my “sources” and my own speculation have helped me predict how Audi is going to leave Le Mans sports car racing for the 900th time. Count Chocula will join HRT, and because of his long relationship with Audi (seen with someone who knew someone who knows Dr Ullrich in 1987) will bring Audi to F1, despite Ullrich calling F1 irrelevant. Red Bull is apparently going to dump their own team and bring sponsorship to HRT Audi. Also, Porsche going to Le Mans means nothing, because with Franken Berry, as you mentioned, Porsche will be headed to NASCAR in 2017. This is what my sources tell me, so it must be true.
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This guy belongs in Hollywood. I bet you could write a better screenplay than 90% of those so-called writers out there.

You have got that whole Bermuda triangle thing going.
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This guy belongs in Hollywood. I bet you could write a better screenplay than 90% of those so-called writers out there.

You have got that whole Bermuda triangle thing going.
George Lucas said, when the BBC trawled him round the Montreal pits, sports and movie's don't really work but these scenarios, of FordCosworthPanoz are winners in my book; keep it up.
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Thanks, but to be honest, Im making fun of reality. My “rumours” that I just mentioned are no more ridiculous than a lot of the rubbish people actually follow on the internet and post on this very forum. Whether it be from an overreactive magazine or a blog that has the prediction success rate of Harold Camping. Sure, its really fun to speculate, but when year after year after year after year people predict the same damn thing (and are always wrong), it just gets pathetic after a while. Especially when the people that actually are involved in these happenings (Newey, Ullrich ect) have denied it.

But yes, I am looking forward to the 2014, 2018, 2022 and whenever the heck after that F1 grid and seeing no Audi or Porsche team on it.
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And if that doesnt happen, then we can speculate about Porsche Joining F1 in 2022, and if that doesnt happen then 2030. Also, if Porsche never joins F1 then we can constantly speculate about Audi joining F1 with Williams, Red Bull, Colin Kolles or Count Chocula.
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What, you arent taking my comment seriously????? Like another internet racing “expert” my “sources” and my own speculation have helped me predict how Audi is going to leave Le Mans sports car racing for the 900th time. Count Chocula will join HRT, and because of his long relationship with Audi (seen with someone who knew someone who knows Dr Ullrich in 1987) will bring Audi to F1, despite Ullrich calling F1 irrelevant. Red Bull is apparently going to dump their own team and bring sponsorship to HRT Audi. Also, Porsche going to Le Mans means nothing, because with Franken Berry, as you mentioned, Porsche will be headed to NASCAR in 2017. This is what my sources tell me, so it must be true.


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People can talk can't they....Of course Peugeot is gonna throw that idea out there.....To psych the competition.....Now Audi is stuck wondering if Peugeot will stay diesel or go petrol....its only mind games.
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WHAT ABOUT BOO BERRY!?
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WHAT ABOUT BOO BERRY!?
Apparently he is going to buy the ALMS from Don Panoz, but because he is Brian France's twin brother, he will shut the series down and all sports car racing is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.
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Apparently he is going to buy the ALMS from Don Panoz, but because he is Brian France's twin brother, he will shut the series down and all sports car racing is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.
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Well, ignoring all of my sarcasm,sorry to say but I think you may actually be correct about that.
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And if that doesnt happen, then we can speculate about Porsche Joining F1 in 2022, and if that doesnt happen then 2030. Also, if Porsche never joins F1 then we can constantly speculate about Audi joining F1 with Williams, Red Bull, Colin Kolles or Count Chocula.
Ridicule all you like but there was a story last week that said the VAG chairman had mentioned the possibility of a VAG brand joining F1 in 2018. As Porsche is a VAG brand I felt it was worth mentioning the possibility. It was more than just idle speculation - but you were to tied up in your p*** taking to realise it
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Ridicule all you like but there was a story last week that said the VAG chairman had mentioned the possibility of a VAG brand joining F1 in 2018. As Porsche is a VAG brand I felt it was worth mentioning the possibility. It was more than just idle speculation - but you were to tied up in your p*** taking to realise it
Yes, you are right, and I was aware of this article before I started “p*** taking”, in fact here it is: http://www.livemint.com/2011/07/2815...der-F1-in.html

My “p*** taking” was not bashing you at all, what I was bashing in addition to several internet rumour sources on other topics (such as Autosport) was VW itself. We keep hearing from them and their brands that they are going to join F1, over and over again, yet it NEVER happens. Also, I did realise something else in this article:

“We have enough brands that could do that,” he said, without being more specific.

Now, just think why he would say this.
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