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Old 8 Jun 2002, 19:03 (Ref:308196)   #1
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Yoong Montoya should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
It's the cars that stop overtaking

I watched a touring car race at silverstone and there was a lot of overtaking in it. Plus the cars don't take damage as easily as F1 cars. This proves that the way F1 cars are designed makes it nearly impossible to overtake on the track. Do you see much overtaking in an F1 race at silverstone? I don't.
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Old 8 Jun 2002, 19:05 (Ref:308198)   #2
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just realised?

F1 doesnt seem to be about the racing anymore, just money...
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Old 8 Jun 2002, 19:58 (Ref:308259)   #3
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Sato san should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridSato san should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
thats why we need drivers in F1 like Juan Pablo , Kimi , Sato and Massa , because they are Racers at heart .
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Old 8 Jun 2002, 22:17 (Ref:308360)   #4
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mac should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridmac should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridmac should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I think the tracks don't help either. But the cars certainly don't either.
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Old 8 Jun 2002, 22:20 (Ref:308364)   #5
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Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!
Max isn't exactly helping either, bring back slicks etc!
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Old 8 Jun 2002, 22:32 (Ref:308371)   #6
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It's mainly the cars, definantly, and it's all to do with aerodynamic grip, simple as that. But of course, that tracks dont help either, with such wonders as the Hungaroring....
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Old 9 Jun 2002, 00:15 (Ref:308393)   #7
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Spudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
That's the spirit of Touring cars. They aren't open wheeled. They don't have to worry so much. They can go for chances without launching over each other. A little tap here and there doesn't matter.. They do it all the time. Sometimes, they don't even overtake, they just push each other out of the way..

I was at Silverstone and saw the races. They were tagging each other left right and centre!! There was bodywork and advertising hoardings all over the place! I swear there wasn't a single car there that had all their panels straight at the end of the feature race!!
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Old 9 Jun 2002, 00:30 (Ref:308398)   #8
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Schumacher is the big cruisader against overtaking. In his early years with Damon he would take the floor at the driver's briefing, warning everyone that it was to dangerous to pass (especially him Ha Ha!) so much that now the stewarts are giving penalties to everyone,everywhere a pass is atempted.

For god sake, let them race.

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Old 9 Jun 2002, 01:42 (Ref:308409)   #9
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It is the cars mainly,IMHO they should go back to steel brakes to lengthen corner braking distances.

Also make the cars flat bottomed from front to rear with single element rear wings.
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Old 9 Jun 2002, 08:13 (Ref:308488)   #10
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f1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
The cars, the tracks..... even the drivers themselves are afraid to take a chance at overtaking moves.

That's why we need more drivers like JPM (and perhaps JV) on the grid who aren't afraid to race wheel-to-wheel, and won't resort to dirty tactics to get the position.

But the cars are the biggest problem.
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Old 9 Jun 2002, 08:47 (Ref:308503)   #11
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Number Juan has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
the tracks are too small and the cars are too fast...its a dangerous combination - F1 doesnt go to the bet tracks in the world, it goes to the ones that are easy for the TV crews to marshall - as in Hockenheim.

F1 has reached a point where it could lessen and go in favour of racing - or it could grow into a sell-out sport.
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Old 10 Jun 2002, 08:47 (Ref:309296)   #12
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BTCC have "success ballast" I believe, together with many other regulations designed to even out the performance of the cars. Obviously there is a large element in this of the aerodynamics not working well in dirty air (in F1), but the principal reason for lack of overtaking is differential in car performance - you can't overtake if you're losing ground at half a second or more per lap.
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