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Old 14 Nov 2012, 16:51 (Ref:3166311)   #26
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Just needed to make a slight correction there... and David Richards is absolutely right on that. The current situation is ridiculous... as borne out by success of the 'new' teams.
Your correction is absolutely spot on. Silly me.
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Old 14 Nov 2012, 18:38 (Ref:3166347)   #27
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Other than a possible entry what other assets does HRT have?

Fresh air?
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Old 14 Nov 2012, 19:09 (Ref:3166357)   #28
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do they even own the intellectual rights to their car?
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Old 14 Nov 2012, 20:10 (Ref:3166377)   #29
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do they even own the intellectual rights to their car?
Probably but could it be made quick enough to get points, I doubt it. So who ever buys HRT will have to start from scratch.

I wonder has any work been done on a car for next year? At least that would add some value to the team. A GP team without a car for next year has very little value.
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Old 14 Nov 2012, 22:48 (Ref:3166437)   #30
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Other than a possible entry what other assets does HRT have?

Fresh air?

Hot air.
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Old 14 Nov 2012, 23:35 (Ref:3166455)   #31
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I will offer them US$5.00 while in Austin...
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Old 14 Nov 2012, 23:45 (Ref:3166460)   #32
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Old 15 Nov 2012, 02:12 (Ref:3166491)   #33
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Didn't Ross Brawn buy the Honda F1 Team for £1, or something like that?

$5 can buy you a lot......of trouble.

I do believe that HRT own the intellectual rights to their car. And the nice thing for the buyer is that it wouldn't take too much work to make it legal for next season. The season to really worry about is the season after that one.
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Old 15 Nov 2012, 03:23 (Ref:3166504)   #34
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Old 15 Nov 2012, 13:41 (Ref:3166651)   #35
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A third Red Bull outfit? Scuderia Toro Rojo?


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Old 15 Nov 2012, 14:43 (Ref:3166682)   #36
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Without a substantial increase in testing opportunities, unlikely.
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Old 15 Nov 2012, 16:05 (Ref:3166707)   #37
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Other than a possible entry what other assets does HRT have?

Fresh air?
They have a transit van and a wheely bin. There was a picture of them on one of the old threads showing them parked up outside their old factory.
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They have a transit van and a wheely bin. There was a picture of them on one of the old threads showing them parked up outside their old factory.
Are you they not leased?
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Old 15 Nov 2012, 16:42 (Ref:3166723)   #39
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Surely "intellectual rights" in the context of a dog of a car like the HRT is a contradiction in terms?
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Surely "intellectual rights" in the context of a dog of a car like the HRT is a contradiction in terms?
Some intellectual rights are better than none at all. At least you'll have a car with which to compete in the 2013 season with.
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Old 15 Nov 2012, 18:42 (Ref:3166759)   #41
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too true, animal rights then.
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Old 15 Nov 2012, 22:31 (Ref:3166854)   #42
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They have a transit van and a wheely bin. .
That should read 2 wheelie bins!

The intellectual rights to which you may or may not own apparently.
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Old 16 Nov 2012, 00:24 (Ref:3166890)   #43
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Apparently, they have a little bit more than just a 'lock-up', a Transit van, and a couple of wheelie-bins.



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Good for them, it's look clean and empty...
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Not sure why they're still insisting on giving Ma a run in first practice still if the team is on the verge of folding? They must be getting some money out of it, so why not run him for the whole weekend and get more money?
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Not sure why they're still insisting on giving Ma a run in first practice still if the team is on the verge of folding? They must be getting some money out of it, so why not run him for the whole weekend and get more money?
It might be to do with having to pay off one of their other drivers to stand down.
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Maybe Tata will invest but there are also rumours of a middle eastern investment consortium interested in buying the team.
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Maybe Tata will invest but there are also rumours of a middle eastern investment consortium interested in buying the team.
"Middle Eastern Investment Consortium" is one of those phrases that gets thrown about whenever a football team goes to the wall. Remembering another "Middle Eastern Investment Consortium" that bought an F1 team (Qadbak), I will wait until it happens to believe it...and even then I'll wait until they've survived a season to really believe it.

Ma Qing Hua's constant running makes me think that either:
a) Ma's money is the only thing that's keeping HRT afloat at the moment.
b) This is a last ditch attempt by HRT to convince a Chinese investor(s) to buy the team.
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lots of chinese investment - either foreign money into china and chinese money out - is on hold until they've finished their power-shifting shenanigans at the moment.

if hrt are waiting for chinese money they're going to have to sit tight and wait until things have settled down there a bit.
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