Predictions/post race discussion Macau F3 GP - Page 3

Kicking-back · 21 Oct 2005, 15:13 (Ref:1439901)

I believe Lewis' future is pretty much mapped out.

McLaren know how they rate him - so if he goes to Macau and wins or goes to Macau and crashes on lap one, it's irrelevant really - it's one race against a whole career.

Whatever he does in Macau won't change their plans for him, so he should be going to try and get a win in such a special race on his record. If he goes and doesn't win, well, at least he tried.

You say it may be his advisors who don't want him to go - well, that's their perogative - but I would hope that Lewis himself does want to go.

Sometimes it's important not to look at every race as a step on a ladder and look at this one in particular as a great event which is worth having a crack at winning.

Suze · 21 Oct 2005, 15:21 (Ref:1439913)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

I believe Lewis' future is pretty much mapped out.

sure, would agree with you there.

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McLaren know how they rate him - so if he goes to Macau and wins or goes to Macau and crashes on lap one, it's irrelevant really - it's one race against a whole career.

yep, again see point but whether they (mclaren etc) do or not i'm not too sure.

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You say it may be his advisors who don't want him to go - well, that's their perogative - but I would hope that Lewis himself does want to go.

i'd be surprised if he *didn't* want to go and is saying "well yeah, but i'd rather just watch it on the tv." don't know what his advisors actually think, it's just a train of thought and a contemplation.

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Sometimes it's important not to look at every race as a step on a ladder and look at this one in particular as a great event which is worth having a crack at winning.

of course, but it will be looked at in that way by others. does that matter? maybe, maybe not. people writing things wherever isn't really going to have any influence on mclaren's thought processes. to be fair, who wouldn't really want to have a crack at winning it? but y'know, who knows how much the decision is in (or out of) his hands?

Asa · 24 Oct 2005, 09:08 (Ref:1441882)

Many people, not just drivers, DREAM of winning the Macau F3 Grand Prix and yet the one with the best chance of winning it this year is not giving it a go...

He owes it to all the people who can only dream about it to have a go at it. (A bit like what Ben Affleck told Matt Damon in "Good Will Hunting".)

F1 wins may fall to him in the future, but Macau F3 is now.

**bella** · 24 Oct 2005, 13:29 (Ref:1442155)

to clear things up a little (seems to be a lot of people waffling without knowing what they're talking about!) the decision was made by mercedes.

strider · 24 Oct 2005, 13:37 (Ref:1442163)

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so your arguement basically boils down to "he's chicken"...

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to clear things up a little (seems to be a lot of people waffling without knowing what they're talking about!) the decision was made by mercedes.

Good to have the clarification, er, for all concerned!

Shame on Mercedes, though.

Asa · 24 Oct 2005, 13:42 (Ref:1442172)

That's surely going to please the potential Mercedes buyers in South China, NOT.

littleman · 24 Oct 2005, 16:42 (Ref:1442319)

They are paying for Rodolfo Avila to drive the HBR Mercedes engined car - he's their local boy!

Asa · 28 Oct 2005, 05:38 (Ref:1445692)

Hamiltion's biggest rival, British F3 champ Alvaro Parente has already moved to A1GP, which has a clashing race in Malaysia. Yet Mercedes is not confident of putting him in the race.

Russfeld · 28 Oct 2005, 06:57 (Ref:1445733)

I wouldnt do Macau, regardless of prestige, because its a waste of time. You go all that way, spend all that money, just to hope you arent in the half of the entries that end up on fire in Turn 1 on Lap 1. Then you piddle around in whatever position you survived into by turn 2, and hope the other survivors ahead of you glance the wall at some point and you dont.

And did you just refer to Parente as a Hamilton rival?! Nevermind that you think he's his biggest rival...

Asa · 28 Oct 2005, 08:43 (Ref:1445804)

Yeah, maybe we should remove everyone else from the entry list so Hamilton will not have to waste his time.

**bella** · 28 Oct 2005, 09:00 (Ref:1445814)

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Good to have the clarification, er, for all concerned!

Shame on Mercedes, though.

excuse me, i was summing up their arguements, that had nothing to do with what i thought

no way would hamilton's biggest rival be parente. surely he'd have to fear the ridiculously quick other asm driver first...

SFonseca · 28 Oct 2005, 09:15 (Ref:1445833)

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I wouldnt do Macau, regardless of prestige, because its a waste of time.

Do you know what are you saying? Macau is the most challenging track in the World.

Anyway, Loic Duval has taken over the seat of Lewis Hamilton and Czech Filip Salaquarda will race with HBR Motorsport.

Marcel ten Caat · 28 Oct 2005, 09:20 (Ref:1445836)

who will take Duval's seat at Signature and who is Salaguarda replacing?

SFonseca · 28 Oct 2005, 09:29 (Ref:1445841)

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who will take Duval's seat at Signature and who is Salaguarda replacing?

Filip Salaquarda is replacing Alejandro Núñez.

Russfeld · 28 Oct 2005, 12:44 (Ref:1446023)

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Do you know what are you saying? Macau is the most challenging track in the World.

So? That doesnt change the fact that you've got a better chance of ending up on your head at Lisboa than winning the race.

Frank_White · 28 Oct 2005, 12:56 (Ref:1446031)

I'm curious about what hamilton is going to do next year.

It doesnt appear that he will do GP2 because he failed to test recently at the first test of the year. Also Ron Dennis spoke a bit dismissively about the GP2 series earlier in the year.

That leaves F1 but i cant see where he will fit in.

strider · 28 Oct 2005, 13:55 (Ref:1446064)

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excuse me, i was summing up their arguements, that had nothing to do with what i thought

Fair comment, although it took you a while to come up with it!

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no way would hamilton's biggest rival be parente. surely he'd have to fear the ridiculously quick other asm driver first...

I don't recall mentioning Parente at all. I don't think he's even going.

Kubica definitely and Montin maybe will be serious threats. Several drivers - even Bruno Senna - could be good for a podium if they stay out of trouble.

Which 'ridiculously quick' ASM driver are we talking about? Vettel or Duval? I wish they would publish an up-to-date entry list. It's about time the drivers stopped playing musical chairs.

**bella** · 28 Oct 2005, 16:16 (Ref:1446149)

to be fair, that remark about parente was directed at asa.

i was talking about vettel, i'm not entirely convinced about duval. i just can't work out where signature's car problems end and the drivers not being able to work around the problems begin.

drivers playing musical chairs... i wouldn't hang around with a team i'd spent a year getting annoyed with, so no wonder there's toys out of prams and things

Andrew Kitson · 28 Oct 2005, 16:37 (Ref:1446163)

Macau is always (in most cases) an extra deal on the end of any championship campaign and secondary. Same with the FF Festival in FF circles. No wonder some drivers switch teams or don't bother. All to do with £££££ available.

ukkartace · 28 Oct 2005, 16:39 (Ref:1446167)

i reckon that robert kubica will be a good contender, hes stepped down from renault world series for this race cuz hes always wanted to win it, and judging by his driving this year and the fact that hes doing it with carlin hes got to be a pretty favourable bet.

Monkey Head · 28 Oct 2005, 16:55 (Ref:1446177)

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who will take Duval's seat at Signature and who is Salaguarda replacing?

James Rossiter?

ukkartace · 28 Oct 2005, 17:20 (Ref:1446201)

yeh i think rossiter is a likely bet, especially as money now isnt an issue wiv BAR's backing lol

**bella** · 28 Oct 2005, 18:25 (Ref:1446246)

we've had the discussion with the bar backing many times with adam carroll, they don't put any money in...

ukkartace · 28 Oct 2005, 19:26 (Ref:1446288)

they do actually, well that was what i was told by the boss of BAR! however you are right in suggesting that they dont pay no where near the full budget for the drivers.

**bella** · 28 Oct 2005, 20:04 (Ref:1446323)

james brought a fairly big sponsor to bar...

isn't it odd that they have these drivers, and (if you're correct) they fund them, but they won't pay top dollar for the best seat to make them look good...

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