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Old 7 May 2017, 15:01 (Ref:3731965)   #101
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That was certainly eventful...
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Old 7 May 2017, 15:09 (Ref:3731967)   #102
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I love that Steve Ryder hasn't improved since his ITV F1 days. He's still willing to BS his way through things. All it's missing is Mark Blundell standing around beside him trying to form a sentence. I'm glad old Paulo Neal is always reliable.
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Old 7 May 2017, 15:12 (Ref:3731968)   #103
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I fear that Church will end up being modified to slow it down, tragic as that would be.
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Old 7 May 2017, 15:13 (Ref:3731969)   #104
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Clios continuing where the big boys left off. 5 cars in the wall or backwards before T2, red flag.
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Old 7 May 2017, 15:19 (Ref:3731972)   #105
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we had enough delay thank you, if need be roll the clios over to another weekend
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Old 7 May 2017, 15:29 (Ref:3731974)   #106
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we had enough delay thank you, if need be roll the clios over to another weekend
"roll the clios over" is a fantastic word choice for this situation.
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Old 7 May 2017, 16:02 (Ref:3731977)   #107
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I fear that Church will end up being modified to slow it down, tragic as that would be.
With the new wider tyres giving more grip, and lap times quicker than they've ever been. Are the BTCC cars too quick for Thruxton regardless of what modifications are made to the corners?

I fear it is a case of the cars have outgrown the circuit.
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Old 7 May 2017, 16:04 (Ref:3731978)   #108
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Thruxton already gets a special tyre due to the forces. If the cars were too quick could they not just slow down the cars using a version of the control tyre? BTCC without Thruxton will never be right.
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Old 7 May 2017, 16:13 (Ref:3731980)   #109
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Thruxton already gets a special tyre due to the forces. If the cars were too quick could they not just slow down the cars using a version of the control tyre? BTCC without Thruxton will never be right.
Dunlop wouldn't be able to produce a special narrower tyre, to reduce the grip and speed especially for Thruxton. It would be too expensive.

Thruxton is only on the calendar because there is no other circuits that are in the South/South West that can host BTCC. Thruxton has seen huge BTCC crashes since the mid 90's.

Matt Neal said it had been discussed between the drivers and TOCA, and Dan Lloyd has been vocal about the safety concerns today to ITV. If BARC/UK MSA aren't able to tame Church corner to the satisfaction of the BTCC then TOCA may decide to drop the circuit.
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Old 7 May 2017, 16:20 (Ref:3731981)   #110
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Dan Lloyd has a point about lack of tyres in front of the armco, I'd be interested to know the reasoning behind the lack of.

The soft earth bank and armco are a better alternative to having cars disappearing off and hitting tree's as happened in 2014. Twice.
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Old 7 May 2017, 16:39 (Ref:3731984)   #111
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They mentioned that the current improvements constitute 'stage one' - so there's more to come. Must be difficult for a circuit with only a few 'headline' events per year to invest in major works.
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Old 7 May 2017, 16:41 (Ref:3731985)   #112
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I fear it is a case of the cars have outgrown the circuit.
Utter nonsense. The cars are pretty much on par with the Super Touring cars round Thruxton, which caused no particular problem 20 years ago.
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Old 7 May 2017, 16:43 (Ref:3731986)   #113
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Absolutely. Thruxton is limited to 12 days a years of racing, it's taken them a couple of years to get it to this point. Would be a shame to see the circuit neutered or lost from the TOCA calendar.

Dan Lloyd appeared very shaken by the accident when interviewed. Justifiably so.
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Old 7 May 2017, 16:52 (Ref:3731988)   #114
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Utter nonsense. The cars are pretty much on par with the Super Touring cars round Thruxton, which caused no particular problem 20 years ago.
The current cars are about 2mph a lap faster in 2017 than in 1996.

Bill Coombs has just said on ITV that no tyre barrier will be put at Church corner. That will not please the current drivers I am sure.
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Old 7 May 2017, 16:53 (Ref:3731989)   #115
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The current cars are about 2mph a lap faster in 2017 than in 1996.
So, as I said, pretty much on par.
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Old 7 May 2017, 16:54 (Ref:3731990)   #116
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Is it me or has Plato not been interviewed this year ? Out of favour or just washed up?
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Old 7 May 2017, 17:02 (Ref:3731992)   #117
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The current cars are about 2mph a lap faster in 2017 than in 1996.

Bill Coombs has just said on ITV that no tyre barrier will be put at Church corner. That will not please the current drivers I am sure.
What reason was given? Hardly an expensive thing to do.
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What reason was given? Hardly an expensive thing to do.
The MSA advised against it, as a car hitting a tyre barrier would be spun around, causing more issues. It is a view that Bill Coombs endorsed.
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Is it me or has Plato not been interviewed this year ? Out of favour or just washed up?
He gets as many interviews as anyone else at the back. No point in trying to pretend he's relevant.
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The MSA advised against it, as a car hitting a tyre barrier would be spun around, causing more issues. It is a view that Bill Coombs endorsed.
It would certainly spin the car around but the barrier is quite a distance from the circuit so it wouldn't spit the car back onto the circuit. It would certainly absorb impacts, and protect the armco. So I don't really understand their point.
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He gets as many interviews as anyone else at the back. No point in trying to pretend he's relevant.
Fair point
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Fair point
I didn't mean my post as harshly as it sounded btw. I read it back and I look like a dick lol. I actually agree with your original post. - He's over the hill and thats why he's at the back whilst his team mates fight for solid points.
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He gets as many interviews as anyone else at the back. No point in trying to pretend he's relevant.
He's a double champion with the most wins of any driver in the series, seems to me a a good few reasons whether he's relevant or not.

Your personal dislike for him has no bearing on his relevancy.
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He's a double champion with the most wins of any driver in the series, seems to me a a good few reasons whether he's relevant or not.

Your personal dislike for him has no bearing on his relevancy.
Whether he's won a billion races or not doesn't matter. When you're at the back of the grid you aren't part of the main story. The point of TV coverage is to deliver the main narrative to the viewer - something plato is not part of anymore. He once was (but he still got a disproportionate amount of interviews), but no longer is.

When Jason is back at the front (if he ever does) then he'll get interviews. When he's not, he'll get as many interviews as everyone else who finishes sub 20th position. Even logistically, you don't send Louise to the back of the grid for one driver when everyone else you need to speak to is 20 positions ahead.
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Whether he's won a billion races or not doesn't matter. When you're at the back of the grid you aren't part of the main story. The point of TV coverage is to deliver the main narrative to the viewer - something plato is not part of anymore. He once was (but he still got a disproportionate amount of interviews), but no longer is.

When Jason is back at the front (if he ever does) then he'll get interviews. When he's not, he'll get as many interviews as everyone else who finishes sub 20th position.
BMR were warned last winter by TOCA about being outspoken, so it might be that Plato can't say anything good so decides to say nothing.
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