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View Poll Results: Who's going to win the 2014 24 Hours of Le Mans?
Audi 49 28.99%
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Toyota 94 55.62%
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Old 6 May 2014, 16:51 (Ref:3402927)   #26
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Seeing as several teams have opted to test on the Bugatti circuit between the Test day and scrutineering in the past few years, I'd think so.
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Old 6 May 2014, 17:00 (Ref:3402934)   #27
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That wasn't really a confirmation of anything but assumption, but you're welcome

I also remember seeing them setting up the garages during the previous week too

Anyone know if ACO mandates when you can run on Bugatti or is it more up to the teams? That is when there's nothing going / blocking the track of course
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Old 6 May 2014, 17:16 (Ref:3402938)   #28
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Speaking of the test day, they haven't started to sell the tickets on their website yet. Last year they were available months earlier.
I hope Porsche will win but it's unlikely. If Porsche doesn't win I hope Audi will, but I think Toyota has the best chances
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Old 6 May 2014, 17:19 (Ref:3402940)   #29
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Speaking of the test day, they haven't started to sell the tickets on their website yet. Last year they were available months earlier.
I hope Porsche will win but it's unlikely. If Porsche doesn't win I hope Audi will, but I think Toyota has the best chances
General entrance tickets for the race offer Test Day admission too as far as I know.
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Old 6 May 2014, 17:21 (Ref:3402944)   #30
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Old 6 May 2014, 17:27 (Ref:3402948)   #31
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The "problem" is that I won't go to the race, only test day this year. Last year they had dedicated tickets
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Old 6 May 2014, 17:29 (Ref:3402950)   #32
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I'm sure you'll be able to pay just to get in on the test day although whether they will issue tickets just for the day, I've no idea.
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According to Tom Kristensen himself, Audi will not be the favourite this year. The situation reminds me 2009 when Peugeot won. The R15 wasn't ready enough.
I would like to see Toyota win because they have worked and progressed each year. The R18 2014 is still a fantastic car but Toyota seems to have made the better choice with 6 MJ, "EoT incentive" or not. The only question is the reliability, because they enter only two cars instead of three. Porsche will be the fireworks and a podium is possible for them.
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Old 6 May 2014, 17:39 (Ref:3402957)   #34
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I'd like Toyota to win and I believe they will. I've nothing against Audi (or Porsche, for that matter), but I would like to see one of those two ring the changes... Audi have been tremendous, but you can have too much of a good thing.....
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According to Tom Kristensen himself, Audi will not be the favourite this year. The situation reminds me 2009 when Peugeot won. The R15 wasn't ready enough.
Yeah but in 2009 (and 2010 minus 908 reliability in one race) Peugeot had clearly made the superior car and there was absolutely nothing to argue about that*, now in 2014 with all the EoT we don't really know -yet- whether to point fingers at Audi or EoT messing up the results sheets too much. Probably both but still.

* there was no BoP at all between the diesels in 2007-2011. Hence 4 seconds gaps between Pug and Audi in LM qualis
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Old 6 May 2014, 18:35 (Ref:3402980)   #36
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It feels strange as a Porsche fan to be skeptical about the reliability of the car. It was never one of Porsche's weak points.
Is it really surprising? the RS Spyder had diabolical electrical gremlins for almost a year!
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Old 6 May 2014, 18:39 (Ref:3402985)   #37
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I was looking forward to a dog fight amongst the 3 manufacturers which is why it bothers me that the Audi might not be there on pace. That's the most exciting kind of race. But I'd be forgetting that there are soo many other factors. Even if a car were to run reliably, an accident could end the day for both Toyotas. I think Porsche will get the pole and dominate the early hours of the race because the top speed is ridiculous.
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Old 6 May 2014, 18:40 (Ref:3402988)   #38
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Is it really surprising? the RS Spyder had diabolical electrical gremlins for almost a year!
I never said they didn't have issues in the past. What was said was that reliability was not one of their weaknesses.
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Better to be unreliable first and reliable later than the other way round. Ie Saleen S7-R's glorious win at Sebring and then years of horrendous reliability in longer races
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Realisticly audi could win the race only with a "2010 strategy" that basicly means = audi finishes the race, toyota and porsche not. IMHO porsche has not a great reliability to run the whole race without issues, toyota maybe could do it, but we have not to forget that in 2013 both ts030 at le mans ran with a very conservative engine map, that improved a lot the overall reliability (indeed at le mans 2013 ts030 were slower than 2012).
Plus in 2013, Toyota set their car up for mixed conditions. And also ran slower because they were trying to maximise the 3 liter bop given to them to go an extra lap than Audi. Imo, even if they didn't go that route, their best would be 3:24's which is still slower than Audi.

Im a Toyota fan, so of course I want them to win. But realistically I think this year, theyre in the best position since 98-99. Last two years they only had the stint length in '13 and were newcomers in '12. I think Vette will be strong this year as well. Hoping for a great battle up front in those two classes.
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It's for Toyota to win LM. I've got a feeling they will pull it off this year. Let's hope all the teams give a good fight so we will all be winners.
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Hope is gonna win
P1 - Rebellion... well since that won't happen Porsche
P2 - Larbre
PRO - Corvette
AM - Dempsey

Hate if would win

P1 - Toyota... wouldn't hate it but it would be the least pleasing, also puts question mark for their future more than not winning I'd think
P2 - I don't know, maybe Alpine, would hate them bragging about that rebadged Oreca being champion
PRO - Aston
AM - Aston

Think is gonna win... before Test Day

P1 - Toyota
P2 - OAK
PRO - Depends on upcoming BoP but let's say Porsche again
AM - Ferrari? Lol. Okay AF Corse I guess

I'm not going to mention that other sub class.

ZEOD gets a positive nod if it
a) survives past midnight
b) doesn't get more screen time than all non-works LMP1s put together
c) isn't constantly referred as "we like to do things a little differently here at Nissan" by Darren Cox

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I still struggle to understand why a Toyota win would be the 'least pleasing'?

Heck, who cares. I just want to see a bloody good race. Leaving all the technical mumbo-jumbo aside, I'll just keep my fingers and toes crossed.
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I still struggle to understand why a Toyota win would be the 'least pleasing'?
To me... just me

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We all show our opinions here, one way or another... ...

Anyway yeah if there are Toyota or Aston or whatever fans here, if you're their supporter that's great, that was just my old personal preference for the outcome of the race and not to be taken seriously
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In my opinion Toyota 'deserves' a win because they had the guts of competing 3 years ago, when LMP1 was nearly 'dead' and they saved LM.And let's not forget they tried before...
This is what I would love to happen. Won't hate it if Audi, Porsche, Rebellion....wins.
btw there is no such thing as hate for winners only respect, but that is only my opinion
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In my opinion Toyota 'deserves' a win because they had the guts of competing 3 years ago, when LMP1 was nearly 'dead' and they saved LM.And let's not forget they tried before...
This is what I would love to happen. Won't hate it if Audi, Porsche, Rebellion....wins.
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I think this sums it up neatly.

All my many years of watching Le Mans has told me that winning this is hard, anyone who can do it (and yes, even the the Dauer 962) is deserving of a "yes, well played".

Is the Toyota my favourite car of this year? No, it isn't, not by a long chalk, but I sure as hell respect the fact that they came with a fast but fragile F1 derived car in 2012, keeping the series alive, and raced with panache, and that they rolled with the huge punches that came with having awakened Audi's sleeping giant last year, and responded with an impeccably sorted car this year. If they win come June, and I think they might, I'll cheer long, I'll cheer hard, and I might be pleased I'm not driving home this year and pop a cork or two.

But if Audi do it? Or Porsche? Or Rebellion pull one of the hat? Or more likely than the last and there's an LMP1 meltdown and we end up with an Oak / Oreca showdown will I complain? Of course I won't; I'll relish every single minute.

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Agreed that you can't begrudge anyone who comes out on top after 24 hours.

I can't believe the amount of people who've gone for Toyota in the poll. Maybe I should stick some money on Audi now they are seemingly rank outsiders.

Then if Toyota win I'll be happy, and if Audi win I'd have some more for the tolls. Win/Win.
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This is certainly the weakest Audi has been for a while. I would say Toyota in 2014 has had a more dominating presence than Peugeot in 2008...but we know who won Le Mans that year

Toyota has the speed, the reliability, and proper management. The only disadvantage against Toyota is 2 cars vs 3. But I wouldn't be surprised if Audi wins. There is something about Le Mans that brings out the absolute best from Audi.
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