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Old 22 Jul 2004, 04:28 (Ref:1042818)   #26
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Old 22 Jul 2004, 05:36 (Ref:1042837)   #27
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Old 22 Jul 2004, 05:49 (Ref:1042842)   #28
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At the risk of being off topic.

Massa is managed by Jean Todt. And i can't figure the significance of Massa's relation to Todt with regards to the issue at hand.

Does Jaguar have a relationship with Renault then because of Mark Webber? And if your argument is to hold water..then hasn't Minardi become a training ground for Renault and Flavio's drivers? Trulli, Webber and Alonso all had their first ride in F1 racing with minardi..does that mean Renault is getting information on Bridgestones illegally? Ooopss
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Old 22 Jul 2004, 08:08 (Ref:1042908)   #29
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I thought that the rules where that a tyre supplier, if asked to, had to be able to supply up to to 60% of the field, not a maximum of 60%
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Old 22 Jul 2004, 17:34 (Ref:1043685)   #30
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Think of it from the point of view that Sauber are looking to get cheaper Mercedes customer engines.

It makes a little more sense then.
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Old 22 Jul 2004, 20:20 (Ref:1043836)   #31
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The 60% rule, as 1200Datto27 suggests, is a you must be prepared to supply 60% of the field, if requested. You can supply as many teams as you like above that amount.
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Old 22 Jul 2004, 23:07 (Ref:1043989)   #32
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Sauber have had a long relationship with Mercedes, I'm sure that McLaren would also like to get data on the Ferrari engine (albeit a lower spec one)

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Old 22 Jul 2004, 23:09 (Ref:1043992)   #33
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Indeed Ridiculous allegations work both ways.
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Old 23 Jul 2004, 04:09 (Ref:1044110)   #34
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The 60% rule, as 1200Datto27 suggests, is a you must be prepared to supply 60% of the field, if requested. You can supply as many teams as you like above that amount.
Incorrect interpritation.If you want to play in F1 you must be prepared to supply up to 60% of the feild.
Key words up to
I checked with the Michelin racing site where the rules regarding tyres are listed and it says up to but not ecceeding 60%.
Michelin have admitted talking with Sauber so it therefore begs the question Who are the dropping from the program?

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P.S. two tyre suppliers present: each of them must, if called upon to do so, be prepared to equip up to 60% of the entered teams on ordinary commercial terms;

The above is from www.michelinsport.com
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Incorrect interpritation.If you want to play in F1 you must be prepared to supply up to 60% of the feild.
Key words up to
I checked with the Michelin racing site where the rules regarding tyres are listed and it says up to but not ecceeding 60%.
Michelin have admitted talking with Sauber so it therefore begs the question Who are the dropping from the program?

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P.S. two tyre suppliers present: each of them must, if called upon to do so, be prepared to equip up to 60% of the entered teams on ordinary commercial terms;

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Well yes and no. You invented (interprited) the underlined part.

They must be prepared up to 60%, but nothing says they cant supply more than that.

Page 10 of the FIA sporting regualtions http://www.fia.com/resources/documen...port_Reg_a.pdf
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Old 23 Jul 2004, 04:59 (Ref:1044118)   #36
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And Pierre Dupasquier has said himself they can take on one more team :

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Old 23 Jul 2004, 05:17 (Ref:1044121)   #37
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I always thought that "UP TO" by default meant "NOT EXCEEDING"

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Old 23 Jul 2004, 12:37 (Ref:1044548)   #38
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No, it doesn't. There's no maximum you can supply.

Up to means you can't supply less than that, if teams ask you.
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Peter Sauber has categorically denied the rumour. "There are no plans in that direction at all," Sauber told Atlas F1 and quoted by sportnetwork.net.

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Old 24 Jul 2004, 10:48 (Ref:1045539)   #40
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He's denied it - so we'll probably get an official announcement it's happening in the future!
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