2008-2009 ALMS Rumors/Additions

aeroehl · 28 Apr 2008, 17:06 (Ref:2189382)

P1
Acura stepping up to P1
Corvette Racing stepping up to P1
Forsythe enters with a Lola/Cosworth

P2
Primetime have stated they are interested in stepping up to P2

GT1
2nd Car for Bell Motorsports
Possible Lexus entry
Persistent Saleen rumors

GT2
BMW for 2009

cmk · 28 Apr 2008, 17:14 (Ref:2189388)

The Primetime upgrade is probably going to be a 2010 thing from what has been said this year.

prototype · 28 Apr 2008, 17:15 (Ref:2189390)

Corvette to P1? I haven't seen anything to substatiate that.

You could put the Saleen rumor down for GT2.

deggis · 29 Apr 2008, 18:35 (Ref:2190414)

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Originally Posted by prototype

Corvette to P1? I haven't seen anything to substatiate that.

From Mariantic long time ago: "GM looking at LMP1 Corvette and GT1 Cadillac XLR for 2009 ALMS - Autosport print ed."

Steve Wesoloski interview from October 2007:

"It's certainly one of the options that we're going to continue to look at very heavily; it's very intriguing to think...the possibility of taking an American car and winning overall at Le Mans is a very interesting opportunity.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...oski_interview

The rumours have some base but I personally very much doubt 2009. It's too soon.

Bob Riebe · 29 Apr 2008, 18:50 (Ref:2190428)

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Originally Posted by deggis

From Mariantic long time ago: "GM looking at LMP1 Corvette and GT1 Cadillac XLR for 2009 ALMS - Autosport print ed."

Steve Wesoloski interview from October 2007:

"It's certainly one of the options that we're going to continue to look at very heavily; it's very intriguing to think...the possibility of taking an American car and winning overall at Le Mans is a very interesting opportunity.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...oski_interview

The rumours have some base but I personally very much doubt 2009. It's too soon.

As of apprx. three months ago, GM killed the new OHC Cadillac V-8.
They were creating it for the same reason Ford created the new V-8 with much larger bore spacing, the old one was too small for many tasks.

If they will not fund Caddies much needed engine, I would say funding a Chevy powered car not related to street cars, that costs a LOT of money, is very, very slim at best.

JHamilton · 29 Apr 2008, 20:18 (Ref:2190518)

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

As of apprx. three months ago, GM killed the new OHC Cadillac V-8.
They were creating it for the same reason Ford created the new V-8 with much larger bore spacing, the old one was too small for many tasks.

If they will not fund Caddies much needed engine, I would say funding a Chevy powered car not related to street cars, that costs a LOT of money, is very, very slim at best.

The new Northstar was not killed due to funding but rather the new CAFE standards.

dj4monie · 30 Apr 2008, 08:27 (Ref:2190872)

Acura will make the decision to move up only if they win the manufactures title in LMP2, which will prove they have what it take to not only beat Porsche, but Audi and "The Lion" and more than likely Toyota in 2010.

Pratt & Miller might move up to P1, but I doubt it will be based on the "Corvette" as you currently know it and that rendering is horrible! I believe it will be based on the LSX engine (427cid alum block) given the early success of Lola/Aston Martin LMP1 car, I think GM and P&M are smiling and will be grinning very wide if they pull off a victory in the face of multi-million dollar budgets.

They have more money and technical resources to exploit the "based on a production engine" rule, but they should seriously consider going to England or Italy for a chassis as we all know last time they went with an American based chassis company with NO EXPERIENCE running low down-force setups at places like Le Mans and Monza.

I'll continue to beat that "Forsythe" drum, why not?

Primetime is getting ahead of itself, they haven't even finished on the podium yet and they wanna run P2? That's laughable at best.

Second "what" for Bell Motorsports???

Another "barely used" DBR9????

How about starting with a better caliber of driver(s) first and then figure out what car to use. How come nobody bought Acemco's Saleens? Get the cars updated at Saleen's shops in California and have at it, the car is ONLY competitive... Pick up some Vantage V8 GT2's even...

Lexus LF-A GT racer is a reality and I think Lexus/Toyota will attack the European market with a DTM entry to be announced next season or later this season you mark my words. The LF-A will be ran with hybrid power I am sure and you'll see it at Le Mans I would say the ALMS as well.

BMW should be out on track testing pretty soon I would think... Any insider information on that??

Zurbert82 · 28 Apr 2008, 17:26 (Ref:2189399)

There is a team that has an ex Oreca Saleen that may join the ALMS this year. Murphy has alluded to the GM LMP1 a couple of times in his latest blogs.

The Badger · 28 Apr 2008, 17:31 (Ref:2189404)

Ive been hearing about that Saleen for ages , with a Rafanelli connection .... if he waits much longer , the car will be old hat !!!

TWK · 29 Apr 2008, 14:42 (Ref:2190228)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Ive been hearing about that Saleen for ages , with a Rafanelli connection .... if he waits much longer , the car will be old hat !!!

Rafanelli wasn't/isn't "waiting." The funding for the project backed out. That story was current, and very much alive at Miller last season. Discussions were "advanced," and the source is/was someone very close to Raf. Subsequently it was delayed, then went away. Such stuff happens.

Similarly, the comment about the Forsythe story at Long Beach being sourced with Forsythe former and current team members is correct.

Murphy (and the others) is reporting that. Will it happen? Murphy doesn't know. He's just passing on (as is MP and RM) what's being said by some who are ostensibly close to the situation. (Murphy also tells me he has an additional indication/source it might happen - but that still doesn't mean it will.)

Dead-Eye · 28 Apr 2008, 17:43 (Ref:2189415)

Lexus GT1? With the Nürburgring LF-A entry (which could be close to GT2 spec for all we know) maybe GT2 is possible too?

dj choc ice · 28 Apr 2008, 20:40 (Ref:2189576)

forsythe lola cosworth?

forgive my dumbness, anyone care to enlighten me?

i wanna see that one, is this the cosworth turbo engine we keep on hearing so much about that was meant to be in the soup kitchen courage LC70's?

JHamilton · 28 Apr 2008, 21:31 (Ref:2189628)

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Originally Posted by dj choc ice

forsythe lola cosworth?

forgive my dumbness, anyone care to enlighten me?

i wanna see that one, is this the cosworth turbo engine we keep on hearing so much about that was meant to be in the soup kitchen courage LC70's?

Yeah, sure. Don't worry about it, it's not going to happen.

aeroehl · 28 Apr 2008, 22:46 (Ref:2189679)

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Yeah, sure. Don't worry about it, it's not going to happen.

Marshall Pruitt, Robin Miller, and Murphy the Bear think it is going to happen.

Fogelhund · 28 Apr 2008, 23:19 (Ref:2189697)

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Originally Posted by aeroehl

Marshall Pruitt, Robin Miller, and Murphy the Bear think it is going to happen.

More specifically, they were told that Forsythe would likely do it/would do it, by Forsythe team members. That doesn't mean they think it will happen, but they are reporting what they have heard.

prototype · 1 May 2008, 03:12 (Ref:2191527)

What does better boots mean?

I personally think Terry is a top flite driver.

AU N EGL · 1 May 2008, 13:14 (Ref:2191863)

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Originally Posted by prototype

What does better boots mean?

Yes some of the English Slang and speaking in analogies, get me too.
Then again I am sure our Americanisms and our Sa'thr'n gits 2 y'all

cmk · 1 May 2008, 14:07 (Ref:2191907)

I'm North American-born and bred! Blame the British slang on years of English television - not just motorsport-related but all those comedies that I watched as a kid, being broadcast on US public television...so I maintain it is y'all's fault if I don't make sense!

And yes, 'boots' = 'tyres' = 'tires'.

The Badger · 1 May 2008, 16:26 (Ref:2191992)

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL

Yes some of the English Slang and speaking in analogies, get me too.
Then again I am sure our Americanisms and our Sa'thr'n gits 2 y'all

I thought you were a cheesehead ?

HORNDAWG · 1 May 2008, 18:59 (Ref:2192088)

Cheeseheads are from Wisconsin. Not N.Carolina.

L.P.

AU N EGL · 1 May 2008, 19:00 (Ref:2192090)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

I thought you were a cheesehead ?

Wisconisn by birth and relocated to North Carolina in 1991.

In other words southern by choice.

The Badger · 1 May 2008, 19:03 (Ref:2192092)

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL

Wisconisn by birth and relocated to North Carolina in 1991.

In other words southern by choice.

Once a cheesehead ..... always a cheesehead !!! Linie & Johnsonville Brats man .....

Leopards dont change their spots mate ...lol

The Badger · 1 May 2008, 03:24 (Ref:2191533)

Better boots means ..... better tyres dude .

AX lover · 1 May 2008, 14:13 (Ref:2191909)

I heard some rumors that also a Spyker would enter the ALMS. Been hearing this since 2006 or so. Do you guys know anything about this?

brielga · 1 May 2008, 14:30 (Ref:2191918)

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Originally Posted by AX lover

I heard some rumors that also a Spyker would enter the ALMS. Been hearing this since 2006 or so. Do you guys know anything about this?

not in 2008, too early to tell for 2009

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