Gen 2 Supercar - Page 7

peckstar · 18 Jun 2015, 00:00 (Ref:3551712)

V8 SUPERCARS DOWNPLAYS HYBRID GEN2 PROSPECTS

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V8 Supercars isn’t expecting any manufacturers to make a serious push for hybrid technologies as part of their Gen2 plans.

Backagain · 18 Jun 2015, 00:46 (Ref:3551727)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

V8 SUPERCARS DOWNPLAYS HYBRID GEN2 PROSPECTS

Bummer, I was looking forward to Toyota entering a 4 car Prius team.

peckstar · 18 Jun 2015, 00:57 (Ref:3551728)

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Originally Posted by Backagain

Bummer, I was looking forward to Toyota entering a 4 car Prius team.

I think it might be more about a hybrid Nissan GTR than a Prius

**GTRMagic** · 18 Jun 2015, 01:24 (Ref:3551738)

The Nissan boys & girls had Hybrid technology in their Le Mans cars last weekend. It was so great they didnt even turn it on!

**GTRMagic** · 23 Jun 2015, 00:32 (Ref:3553196)

AA has been having fun rabble rousing this week.
The Nissan blokes have said that the series needs to provide an opportunity to be market relevant, with cars and technology, to assure their participation & commitment.

AA makes it sound like an ultimatum.

Umai Naa · 23 Jun 2015, 02:02 (Ref:3553210)

Sensationalist tabloidism at AA?

Well I never...!

**FIRE** · 23 Jun 2015, 16:18 (Ref:3553382)

Warning to V8 Supercars or Kelly Racing?

**GTRMagic** · 23 Jun 2015, 23:48 (Ref:3553484)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Warning to V8 Supercars or Kelly Racing?

Good point

Its easily arguable that had 888 run the Nissan program, that they would likely have a championship and a Bathurst in the kitty right now.

peckstar · 24 Jun 2015, 00:07 (Ref:3553490)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Good point

Its easily arguable that had 888 run the Nissan program, that they would likely have a championship and a Bathurst in the kitty right now.

They havent got a bathurst under COTF in a holden

**GTRMagic** · 24 Jun 2015, 00:22 (Ref:3553495)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

They havent got a bathurst under COTF in a holden

True, but you would have to say that they have been super quick their in their own cars & customer cars. Its not like they scraped the barrel for co drivers either

velly4 · 25 Jun 2015, 00:17 (Ref:3553758)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Good point

Its easily arguable that had 888 run the Nissan program, that they would likely have a championship and a Bathurst in the kitty right now.

Stretching it a bit there? Considering Kelly boys are running 888 front ends in the car already.

Do you honestly believe that 888 could of done something with that engine that the Kelly's or Nismo couldn't?

No doubt Ludo probably could have done something aero wise but not enough to make up for the engine shortfalls

TWRv12 · 25 Jun 2015, 00:27 (Ref:3553761)

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Originally Posted by velly4

Do you honestly believe that 888 could of done something with that engine that the Kelly's or Nismo couldn't?

You hardly think RD wouldn't have sorted that mess a whole lot quicker.

They should have got a break on the rules that forced them to wait so long for new cylinder heads.

They made the Nissan announcement in 2012 and they have yet to race the proper engine.

**GTRMagic** · 25 Jun 2015, 03:37 (Ref:3553778)

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Originally Posted by velly4

Stretching it a bit there? Considering Kelly boys are running 888 front ends in the car already.

Do you honestly believe that 888 could of done something with that engine that the Kelly's or Nismo couldn't?

No doubt Ludo probably could have done something aero wise but not enough to make up for the engine shortfalls

Would 888 have taken 3 goes at aero homologation?

Would 888 have funded an intensive engine program at KRE to eke everything out of those powerplants?

Would 888 have employed some of the most successful drivers in the category ever?

Would 888 have used its multiple-championship-winning engineering group to design and build championship winning cars? As they did with Ford & Holden?

and so on..

velly4 · 25 Jun 2015, 11:30 (Ref:3553840)

Are you forgetting how long it took 888 to get going when they started here? I remember one season they kept lunching engines all year

FPV8U · 25 Jun 2015, 13:00 (Ref:3553864)

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Originally Posted by velly4

Are you forgetting how long it took 888 to get going when they started here? I remember one season they kept lunching engines all year

Your thinking of FPR 2004, T8 had alot of front end upright failures in 2004, 2005 with SBR engines and their latest gen chassis they were straight into title contention.

If anyone has the potential to debut a new brand very close to the front I would expect it to be T8.

Bell_End · 26 Jun 2015, 04:24 (Ref:3553998)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

AA has been having fun rabble rousing this week.
The Nissan blokes have said that the series needs to provide an opportunity to be market relevant, with cars and technology, to assure their participation & commitment.

AA makes it sound like an ultimatum.

good ole D Cox, loves any bit of free publicity.

Amaroo Park · 29 Jun 2015, 01:06 (Ref:3554623)

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Originally Posted by Bell_End

good ole D Cox, loves any bit of free publicity.

Maybe he is trying to deflect attention from the embarrassing Le Mans effort he was in charge of.

peckstar · 10 Jul 2015, 01:52 (Ref:3557167)

MANUFACTURERS GIVEN GREEN LIGHT FOR GEN2 PLANNING

Think we were pretty over all these changes, Road car must have a back seat though

peckstar · 10 Jul 2015, 02:43 (Ref:3557174)

just noticed. minimum decibel

D.R.T. · 10 Jul 2015, 02:56 (Ref:3557176)

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Originally Posted by Amaroo Park

Maybe he is trying to deflect attention from the embarrassing Le Mans effort he was in charge of.

How much awareness do you have about the Nissan LMP1 project and I guess to that effect I think your expectations may have been a little high

**GTRMagic** · 10 Jul 2015, 03:03 (Ref:3557177)

A 911 has a back seat... Can we build a Gen2 SC based on a 991 RSR?

peckstar · 10 Jul 2015, 03:09 (Ref:3557179)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

A 911 has a back seat... Can we build a Gen2 SC based on a 991 RSR?

yes is the answer

mikuni · 10 Jul 2015, 03:31 (Ref:3557181)

Technically it will be based on a regular 911, of which a minimum of 5000 units must be sold globally per year, so that restricts the real rare stuff. Also it will have to fit on the control chassis and have the engine in the front, so that will limit the options for manufacturers.

A minimum decibel level is interesting, though just noise isn't always good. It has to be good noise. If that makes any sense.

All in all, nothing hugely game changing, they still need to tell us how exactly they will get parity between a small turbo engine and a 5 litre NA V8.

**GTRMagic** · 10 Jul 2015, 03:48 (Ref:3557184)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

A 911 has a back seat... Can we build a Gen2 SC based on a 991 RSR?

yes is the answer

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Originally Posted by mikuni

Technically it will be based on a regular 911, of which a minimum of 5000 units must be sold globally per year, so that restricts the real rare stuff. Also it will have to fit on the control chassis and have the engine in the front, so that will limit the options for manufacturers.

Porsche sells around 30,000 911's per year apparantly... you could drop a current 911 RSR body design over the control chassis, place the 'right' engine for this model in the front (470bhp without any tuning bits attached!) and go SC racing...

The challenge I see is that the existing category compares (mostly) cars the average person can buy. A Falcon, Commodore, Altima... maybe a Volvo.. and the aspirational Benz...

How much fun might it be for a luxury brand to be in that category, to be beaten by the Falcon/Commodore/Altima....?

peckstar · 10 Jul 2015, 03:52 (Ref:3557185)

i cant really imagine that any of the brands that are predominately sports car makers would be interested.

This will be more about main brands showcasing a hero car of some sort, as it has always been

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