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View Poll Results: Which driver combination will win the Pirtek Enduro Cup?
#2 Pye/Luff WP HOLDEN 0 0%
#3 Russell/Douglas LDM HOLDEN 0 0%
#5 Winterbottom/Canto PRA FORD 0 0%
#6 Waters/Stanaway PRA FORD 0 0%
#7 T.Kelly/Le Brocq NisMo NISSAN 0 0%
#8 Percat/Jones BJR HOLDEN 0 0%
#9 Reynolds/Youlden Erebus HOLDEN 0 0%
#12 Coulthard/D'Alberto DJRTP FORD 2 6.90%
#14 Slade/Walsh BJR HOLDEN 1 3.45%
#15 R.Kelly/Wall NisMo NISSAN 0 0%
#17 McLaughlin/Premat DJRTP FORD 7 24.14%
#18 Holdsworth/Reindler CSR HOLDEN 0 0%
#19 W.Davison/Webb Tekno HOLDEN 0 0%
#21 Blanchard/Hazelwood TBR HOLDEN 0 0%
#22 Courtney/Perkins WP HOLDEN 0 0%
#23 Caruso/Fiore NisMo NISSAN 0 0%
#33 Tander/Golding GRM HOLDEN 0 0%
#34 Moffat/Muscat GRM HOLDEN 0 0%
#55 Mostert/Owen PRA FORD 1 3.45%
#56 Bright/Jacobson PRA FORD 1 3.45%
#62 Rullo/A.Davison LDM HOLDEN 1 3.45%
#78 de Silvestro/D.Russell NisMo NISSAN 0 0%
#88 Whincup/Dumbrell 888 HOLDEN 7 24.14%
#97 van Gisbergen/Campbell 888 HOLDEN 6 20.69%
#99 Wood/Pither Erebus HOLDEN 0 0%
#888 Lowndes/Richards 888 HOLDEN 3 10.34%
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Old 15 Jun 2017, 01:20 (Ref:3741467)   #61
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Does it matter to people, like yourself, who dont care about it. Not at all. you get your race. Makes absolutely no difference to those people apart from giving them another opportunity to whinge about Supercars

I don't know why you're so wound up about this as there's no need to be. Why can't we just all get along mate?

Themes shouldn't be mandatory for each year but if the organisers think up a relevant theme to do with a certain aspect or people involved in the history of the sport it can be only a good thing. It helps the oldies get all nostalgic and the kids asking questions which helps them learn more about the sport. Everyone has different interests so if it helps one person become a fan then I see it as a win win.

Regardless of whether it's Supercars or something else. That's not the point.
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Old 15 Jun 2017, 01:27 (Ref:3741468)   #62
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I don't know why you're so wound up about this as there's no need to be. Why can't we just all get along mate?

Themes shouldn't be mandatory for each year but if the organisers think up a relevant theme to do with a certain aspect or people involved in the history of the sport it can be only a good thing. It helps the oldies get all nostalgic and the kids asking questions which helps them learn more about the sport. Everyone has different interests so if it helps one person become a fan then I see it as a win win.

Regardless of whether it's Supercars or something else. That's not the point.
Apart from your personal comment I think we are agreeing, Your probably should be replying to the people with an issue instead of me
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Old 15 Jun 2017, 01:35 (Ref:3741469)   #63
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so you did some polling at the track as to why fans were there did you, and the overwhelming result was "themes"? Nothing to do with the anniversary?



Can you define "those people" that you are categorising me as being part of?
Was not the 50th race the theme they promoted in marketing? Its not a big deal

I think i did define it in the paragraph you quoted "Does it matter to people, like yourself, who dont care about it" ("it" being themes which we are discussing)

Its not a big deal, doesnt affect you in the slightist, Are you just using it as another opportunity to whinge about supercars?
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Old 15 Jun 2017, 03:30 (Ref:3741490)   #64
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No big deal then is it? you asked a question, i gave you the answer, you complained that it wasnt needed, i explained why it was.

Let it go and move on, because it doesnt affect you in any way
No, you gave your opinion, not the answer. You gave your opinion on why you thought it was needed, not an explanation.

My opinion doesn't affect you in any way, yet you feel the need to defend Supercars, as you do with every other opinion that doesn't match yours and/or toe the Supercars line as gospel. Maybe i'm not the one that needs to let go...
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Old 15 Jun 2017, 04:02 (Ref:3741501)   #65
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No, you gave your opinion, not the answer. You gave your opinion on why you thought it was needed, not an explanation.

My opinion doesn't affect you in any way, yet you feel the need to defend Supercars, as you do with every other opinion that doesn't match yours and/or toe the Supercars line as gospel. Maybe i'm not the one that needs to let go...
firstly, wasnt my opinion, it was how the supercars marketing department is working

But fair enough, As long as we use the same standard when we talk all forms of motorsport and not just Supercars.
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firstly, wasnt my opinion, it was how the supercars marketing department is working

But fair enough, As long as we use the same standard when we talk all forms of motorsport and not just Supercars.
Ok sorry didn't realise you were in Marketing, thought it was elsewhere.

I have that approach regardless of category in Motorsport, or topic in general. If you think otherwise I suspect you have me confused with someone else.
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I'll call you on that - maybe not "themes" but definitely a lot of talk about tradition, how much the race meant to win and plenty of hype and hoopla by the standards of the day.
Tradition is not a theme, but have a look at the DVD of the 1977 race with the pre-race festivities, have a read of the 1977 race program, the past certainly gets mentioned, but they are all more interested in the great event about to come up, not waxing lyrical about how close a Studebaker came to winning or having a parade of XR GT's because it was ten years since they won.

In the build up to the race in the last ten or so years you hear more talk about the past than you do about how everyone is looking forward to what is coming up. Why is that?

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Was not the 50th race the theme they promoted in marketing?
They didn't promote, market or have a 50th race theme.

They did promote "50 years" of the event though.
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Old 15 Jun 2017, 10:33 (Ref:3741552)   #68
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In the build up to the race in the last ten or so years you hear more talk about the past than you do about how everyone is looking forward to what is coming up. Why is that?
I think that is because there is now all this empty time in the morning of the race, as the cars have got quicker & more reliable, the race starts later. So instead of more supports racing, we have 45 mins of bullshit before the start.
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Tradition is not a theme, but have a look at the DVD of the 1977 race with the pre-race festivities, have a read of the 1977 race program, the past certainly gets mentioned, but they are all more interested in the great event about to come up, not waxing lyrical about how close a Studebaker came to winning or having a parade of XR GT's because it was ten years since they won.

In the build up to the race in the last ten or so years you hear more talk about the past than you do about how everyone is looking forward to what is coming up. Why is that?



They didn't promote, market or have a 50th race theme.

They did promote "50 years" of the event though.
sorry you are right, it was a 50th year theme, my mistake for using the wrong word

here is the 1984 pre race tribute to the big bangers

and the cover to 1992, which for some reason is promting a 30th theme


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IIRC, I think that was the 30th anniversary of the running of the race at Bathurst. Not the 30th anniversary of the enduro event as a whole
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Old 16 Jun 2017, 09:28 (Ref:3742117)   #71
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IIRC, I think that was the 30th anniversary of the running of the race at Bathurst. Not the 30th anniversary of the enduro event as a whole
Correct, 1st Armstrong 500 at Bathurst (after moving the event from Phillip Island), was in 1963. Hence, 30th race in 1992.

And Peckstar, recognizing and promoting an anniversary is not the same as promoting with a theme.
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Correct, 1st Armstrong 500 at Bathurst (after moving the event from Phillip Island), was in 1963. Hence, 30th race in 1992.

And Peckstar, recognizing and promoting an anniversary is not the same as promoting with a theme.
Thus the reason 2012 was 50. (20 years later)

If you say so, matters not one bit, just a term, both are promotion

Let me also add that I added a person to my group this week because of the 40 years since the 1-2

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