Who are the 5th best team?

[BootsOntheSide]

Behind Ferrari, BAR, Rneault and Williams the battle is quite intense. McLaren coming up with (by their stndards) a turkey has given the other teams a chance to challenge for 5th. Toyota have a new car coming for Monaco which is said to be a big improvement, Sauber and consistant, and Jaguar have all the threads of a good season, they just need ot pull them together. So who will take 5th in the COnstructor's table?

[climb]

Related to available budget, probably Sauber.

[BertMk2]

McLaren - they have the financial clout and the facilities to make up some of the lost ground (assuming that the Merc stops detonating).

[Dani Filth]

for the moment is Sauber ..

[Knowlesy]

McLaren. Maybe not at the minute, but watch them, climb as the season wears on.

[x_dt]

McLaren - assuming they drop out of 5th place in the near future they should gain it back by the end of the season (perhaps when the revised car comes out) but by then Renault, BAR and Williams will be out of reach in the CC - never mind Ferrari.

[esorniloc]

Who's to say that McLaren will not soon hit the mark and overtake the 4th place team - Williams?

[Don K]

BAR

[Kicking-back]

McLaren are the fifth best team just now - the points table doesn't lie.

[Skam85]

Sauber/Jag

[Armco Bender]

Does 5th place in the WDC get a certificate for trying hard or something?.

[Don K]

Originally posted by Armco Bender
Does 5th place in the WDC get a certificate for trying hard or something?.

Under the current rules it allows you to have a third driver on fridays.

[BootsOntheSide]

You mean it PREVENTS you from having a thrid driver on Fridays?

[Kicking-back]

Originally posted by BootsOntheSide
You mean it PREVENTS you from having a thrid driver on Fridays?

No. It allows you to have a third driver on Fridays.

[santori]

Jaguar are very poor, one qualifying aside. Sauber were pretty good last time when their tyres were the ones to have but otherwise no better.
Toyota will probably get there but probably not soon.
So - McLaren. For 5th position that is. I'm not sure who is the fifth best team.

[Mr V]

McLaren will end up 5th imo.

[BootsOntheSide]

Originally posted by Kicking-back
No. It allows you to have a third driver on Fridays.

Right you are, although you get it by finishing 6th but not by finishing 4th, so there's less incentive to capture 4th as the season goes on.

[oziengineer]

I refuse to believe that Mclaren will not regain form before the end of the year. They have had an uncharacteristically bad start, but the new car may well ne super quick.

[minirda]

Definitely McLaren?

Don K BAR is the 5th team in your opinion? Do you mean that McLaren will end up top 4 en BAR has had his best already?

[minirda]

Originally posted by minirda
Definitely McLaren?

? should be !

[Don K]

Originally posted by minirda
Definitely McLaren?

Don K BAR is the 5th team in your opinion? Do you mean that McLaren will end up top 4 en BAR has had his best already?

I think McLaren will probably end up within the top 4.
And I expect BAR to drop slightly during the season (that is, relative to Williams and Renault).

Don't know whether or not BAR would drop out of the top 4, but I thought saying "BAR" would be the shortest possible way to summarize this.

[minirda]

Originally posted by Don K
I think McLaren will probably end up within the top 4.
And I expect BAR to drop slightly during the season (that is, relative to Williams and Renault).

Don't know whether or not BAR would drop out of the top 4, but I thought saying "BAR" would be the shortest possible way to summarize this.

It sure is, Don. Then again BAR didn't so bad in France this week. Personnaly i have high expectations of Renault for the next GP's. Based upon how they performed in the same period last year. I think they will be the first team to beat Ferrari this season. Nothing against Ferrari, but certainly hope Jarno or Fernando will bring some firework back into f1 this year.

[Panzer]

I voted McLaren simply because of their budget.