pedal mounts

gttouring · 14 Dec 2007, 05:57 (Ref:2088455)

What are the advantage or disadvantage of where to mount pedals?

Floor mount vs. Firewall mount?

Specifically here
the application is a Volvo Amazon,
so orginal has firewall mounted pedals.

should i change the set up?
or keep it firewall mounted with Tilton set up?
or go the triple pedals on the floor.?

chevy34 · 14 Dec 2007, 07:41 (Ref:2088488)

The only real reason I know for the floor mounted pedal box is to lower the centre of gravity.
I have done a few cars with the floor mount deal and they are are mongral to do anything to eg: master cylinder changes. They also can be pain to get the mounting stiff you will also find you have to mount the seat a long way back (which is a good thing)
If you do a firewall mount you will have to spend a bit of time strengthing the fire wall to stop it flexing.
I like the over hung tilton/AP setups with the master cylinders above your feet you can make a nice stiff simple mount from the roll cage dash bar to the fire wall they are easyish to work on.

GORDON STREETER · 14 Dec 2007, 08:53 (Ref:2088533)

To me floor mounted pedals "feel" wrong in operation. When pushing the pedals, especially the clutch, because of the fulcrum position it feels alien. I cant think of many road cars that have them apart from the old VW beetle and Porkies. I suppose its what you get used to but the floor mount is easier to fit if you have the room. My preference is with cylinders above.

ian.stewart · 14 Dec 2007, 11:18 (Ref:2088662)

I dont get on with Floor mounts, for some reason they make a ankles hurt, Im with Gordon they do feel wrong, Did the Morris Minor have floor mounted pedals, certainly theres a master cyl under the seat, Most if not all 30s & 40s cars with traditional chassis tend to have floor mounts as well

**dtype38** · 14 Dec 2007, 17:27 (Ref:2088929)

I've just changed my car from "underslung" to floor mounted pedals. The main reason was that I could lower and lighten the firewall and panelwork above my feet to save weight and give more space for my engine air intake. It also has the benefit of lowering the centre of gravity a bit. That said, I tried my friend's floor mounted set and hated to "feel" of the pedals and the way they moved my ankles. It seemed to be a problem of the pedals being quite short and the pivots being too far forward (towards me). So on mine I've put a "let in" in the floor and used quite long pedals. I've mounted them with the pivots near the bulkhead so the arc of the pedal face is slightly upward as I press them. This seems to make them feel much more like my underslung pedals. I'm hopeful I won't even notice the difference when I start racing with them. :-)

GORDON STREETER · 14 Dec 2007, 19:55 (Ref:2089006)

Yes the Moggie had floor mount as did loads of the old cars of that era . The difference was they were designed about right as regards ankle problems.

THR · 14 Dec 2007, 22:49 (Ref:2089132)

Single seaters are floor mount, so they are king of race cars, so well, it must be better!!
stiffer, and lower, and more hard to work on!

gttouring · 15 Dec 2007, 00:28 (Ref:2089227)

thanks chapos
i am still considering packing and eas of work
points go for firewall mount so far

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