Indy shame (25+ threads merged into 1)

[JeremySmith]

It is hard to believe that grown men can act like small children.

[Francesca]

Stoddard's just called it a farce - so right.

If Ferarri was on Bridge's would this have happened?

[JAG]

Everyone makes mistakes.

You overcome them not, as earlier stated, shoot yourself in the head and give up any chance of F1 being a success in the US.

[Francesca]

and I'm concerned for the poor marshalls retrieving beer cans from the track!

[Kicking-back]

Whoever throws drinks cans on the track should be arrested.

Shameful thing to do.

[TheNewBob]

Yeh - what a waste of valuable beer!

[Knowlesy]

Since when have Michelin tried to shift blame? They are to blame! There's no two ways.

But the FIA and Ferrari could have gotten around this by staging a race and sorting it out later. Why not install the chicane and have a 20 car race? Then later on, penalise the Michelin runners by wiping out their points for the race?

People here just don't appreciate the disservice this does to the fans. It is F1 who will suffer from this more, not Michelin, so the FIA have missed the bigger picture here. they should be looking to protect themselves and forget the politics.

[Inigo Montoya]

Originally Posted by knowlesy

Ferrari could have helped this situation Inigo. Unfortunately, as ever, they fail to see the bigger picture. I think this will damage their reputation more than agreeing to a chicane.

Michelin, for once, has been incompetent. The FIA and Ferrari have been shortsighted.

Guys, the FIA (NOT FERRARI) would not let them build the chicane. The FIA's call, not Ferrari. Please, lets get things the way they really are.

[littleman]

Why couldn't ALL the teams use Bridgestones just for this race? Surely Michelin could have been forced to agree and Bridgestone would have got great PR.

[djinvicta]

Yes; and I get no reply to this thread, cos youre all sat there, moaning and whinging, but doing nowt about it. Chuck £20,000 or £30,000 into Club racing per year like we do, mad isnt it? Its in my brain and Ive a business that can afford it.Christ I orgasm on sideways FUN racing, dont give a toss if Pete doesnt win:Spectator FUN racing. Find a sponsor? Its up to you lot without SPONSORS F1 is DEAD

[Knowlesy]

ferrari did oppose the decision though Inigo. As far as I'm aware. I accept if I'm wrong.

[forzaf1]

So your unhappy....I feel sorry for you but dont throw things...its dangerous and inmature.

[JAG]

You'd think the teams would pull the cars wouldn't you!

Points more important than safety?

[Shoe-maker]

I think this is the natural conclusion of all the mindless rule-tampering we've seen over the past few years. It's a huge shame because I think Ferrari would have been competitive enough to have a great race with the Renaults and the McLarens today. Michelin have messed up big time although I suspect that the media will try to twist it so that Ferrari are the villains, as usual.

[rustyfan]

Originally Posted by knowlesy

It is F1 who will suffer from this more, not Michelin, so the FIA have missed the bigger picture here. they should be looking to protect themselves and forget the politics.

Oh I don't know about that. I wouldn't be too surprised if there are a few major lawsuits launched at Michelin because of this.

[Formula1Fanatic]

They have every right.

Why should they care when there whole weekend has been ruined by stupidity of Michelin and the FIA.

[Hazza]

Originally Posted by jamie1928

David Hobbs just said it best in my opinion.
He said turn one(or turn 13 for F1) at Indy has been there since 1909, you'd think since it's been there so long Michelin could have made a tire that could handle it.

Didn't they just mention that the track has been resurfaced with some special new groove in it and Bridgestone's affiliate Firestone sent back data (As you would rightfully expect) to Bridgestone as to what the wear was like? Remember Turn One is practically a new turn this year, even for the IRL guys.

[Knowlesy]

There are no cars on the track to be in danger of these things anyways.

And I can't blame them. Imagine, there will be people who will have travelled from around the world to see this "event".

I'd like to see how rationally you would act in this situation.

[JAG]

Its going from bad to worse.

The fallout from this will be far bigger than any of us can imagine.

[Knowlesy]

Hazza is correct.

[ensign14]

Nothing to do with the rule changing. Everything to do with Michelin.

[djinvicta]

Sorry;See my thread. All Sponsors are not worth there light. Any guy that reckons sponsors are not worth listening to are pratts. Im a sponsor; AND no one listens to us. Without us, some brilliant guys would not make it through Club racing yet alone F1. Long live Pete Thurston and FUN sideways V8 racing

[1969MGCGTdriver]

WAY TO GO MICHELIN!!!! Leave it up to a tire manufacturer to screw F-1 is the US. F-1 is finally gaining popularity here and now this!!!

Ban Michelin. Use one tire manufacturer like (and I hate to say this) NASCAR.

Had I traveled up to Indy and bought tickets, be looking for somebody to pay me back. While I think F-1 is the best open-wheel racing series in the world, if this is the kind of rubbish we get, it will just help IRL and ChampCar here in the States.

Sorry for the rant but I have had little sleep after staying up all night for Le Mans. Hey, on the bright side any of you fans that want to jump ship can join us in the sportscar racing world.

[Heebeegeetee]

Originally Posted by ensign14

Nothing to do with the rule changing. Everything to do with Michelin.

I totally agree.

See those fans from Mexico, and Panama?

What a mess.

[hamsmith]

[QUOTE=Formula1Fanatic


Darkest day for F1 since San Marino 94 [/QUOTE]


I know you are not the only one who said this so to everyone who thinks the same...Noboby died this weekend!!